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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:03PM EvaliaMagic said

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Smart's bad reputation comes from his interactions with the internet community, and how he goes into angry fits whenever anyone dare question him. Particularly amusing is his insistence that if you claim he's not a real doctor he'll sue you. So far this has not proven true and he has not in 10 years provided any proof of his PhD existing at all.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:21PM Beau Hindman said

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Evalia: I think I covered this in the very first paragraph, and he has been written about in quite a few posts on this site.

So....what do you think of the actual game?

Beau
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:24PM (Unverified) said

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This game has no chance when the likes of FFXIV, GW2, SW:TOR, WOW CATACLYSM, etc. releases.

Just shut it down now and save money.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:29PM karnisov said

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i'd say that Alganon is in a different market than most of those titles, except for GW2 and its not due out until next year.
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 4:15PM Its Utakata stupid said

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Probably not, gerkshz...that's because Alagon is full-on a F2P with MT's, where as the games you mentioned will most likely be sub based and GW's *weird F2P with expansions model. So Alagon's direct competion now are more likely Allods, Mabinogi and a gazillion other titles with lesser known IP's. Thus, it may likely do better for itself now than the model it was using that would put it directly and dangerously against WoW and other well established MMO based titles when the product is subpar. In this way I agree, Mr. Smart did the smart thing (no pun intended)...even though I am not a big fan of the F2P MT models in general or Mr. Smart.

*Note: Weird in a good way. :)
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:27PM (Unverified) said

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Nice article and I appreciate that you stayed out of the 'politics' of the game. You were fair and hit the salient points spot on. There is a LOT to like about Alganon and a lot that devs have planned for the coming months. It's not for everyone but in this day of monthly subscriptions or laughable F2P games, this one has a better than average chance.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:27PM karnisov said

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well its kool that DS and the Quest team pulled off an about-face in a short amount of time. hope the game does well.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:30PM nearly nil said

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Personally, I don't give a rat's posterior about Derek Smart. Focus on the actual game, folks. Interesting review, I'm intrigued about the game now. I would like to know more about the cash shop; how necessary it is or just for convenience etc.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:37PM Beau Hindman said

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Here Nil, you can see the market here: http://www.myalganon.com/tribute/ It's pretty ordinary stuff, but it looks like they do sell armor sets? I will have to look into it more.

Beau
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Posted: May 4th 2010 8:20AM (Unverified) said

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The armor sets you can buy from the cash shop are decent, but are nothing compared to what players can craft at comparable levels. I think the armor sets were intended for folks who are too lazy or too pressed for time to find someone to make an armor set (or level crafting and do it themselves).
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:32PM (Unverified) said

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Wait, so you call WoW's graphics kiddie and Allod's serious. Hmmmmm....
If you weren't a blogger on a respected MMO site, I'd think you a troll.

Anyways on topic, the graphics in this game look closer to ROM then anything else, but thats just from looking at screens, maybe it's different ingame.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:39PM Eamil said

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"Wait, so you call WoW's graphics kiddie and Allod's serious. Hmmmmm....
If you weren't a blogger on a respected MMO site, I'd think you a troll."

I thought something similar, since when I was playing the Allods beta the general consensus seemed to be that Allods' graphics were basically "WoW-style but slightly better."
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:40PM Beau Hindman said

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Steve: I didn't call them "serious." If you re-read what I typed, I put: "...between WoW's kiddie graphics and WAR or Allods' *more* serious look." Meaning more serious as compared to WoW. Also, I go on to say that there are some parts that "even" remind me of LotRO and Vanguard, games that actually quite "serious" looking.

Beau
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:53PM (Unverified) said

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Fair enough, although I still wouldn't call Allod's anymore "serious" than WoW graphics.

Graphics are funny things, everyone has strong opinions on them, and no one is right or wrong. In the end it's all personal preference.
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 4:22PM (Unverified) said

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I only played Allods for about 10 or so levels in the beta, but from what I saw, the graphics were considerably more cartoony than WoW. Maybe the graphics are different in the higher level areas.

Also, could Alganon possibly have redesigned their UI to not look like WoW but also not look ugly as hell? I can see myself squinting all the time to try to figure out which icons are which.
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 1:35PM Greeen said

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Good summary; I had a similar feeling of this game (didn't test though at its first launch). Love the scenery and such, but at the same it hurts to see the clumsy animations.
I think they are still making a mistake by having the game on sale and only f2p with market after. That will turn off many potential f2p players (since it isn't really f2p...).
And the community according to forums is still pretty small....
I hope it works out for them, but it looks tough with the alternatives out there.

Posted: May 5th 2010 12:26AM (Unverified) said

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Ok I'll go easy on this. This game is a steaming pile. But I could have seen that coming if I had know Derek Smart was tied to this... You say in your article that you don't know about this guy and don't care, well you being in the gaming industry that's just silly to ignore the "who's who", and some would say he is right up there with EA in fan hate. I still hate him from when I was 13 and spent a months allowance on the travesty that was 3000AD. Then he continued to pump out FAILURE after FAILURE which would consist of the same boring game play concepts and mechanics. The only thing this guy has done right is somehow convinced a score of people to give him money, maby those same people were like you the writer of this article and decided to not care about whose involved with it...

I have not been trashing on this game in the past on these forums so this is a first but I had to say something after reading this, people involved in these projects have everything to do with them. So if Hitlers making an MMO lets all not say anything! Shhhhh! It's like not it matters who's making the game right? My grandma? Derek Smart? Hitler?

Posted: May 3rd 2010 2:14PM (Unverified) said

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The game is not fun, at all. As I have said, and I will continue to say. The game is still plagued with a majority of bugs that it had. It plays exactly the game as it did in it's previous incarnation.

If you had played the game prior you would realize that there were a group of people who swore that they had almost no bugs at all. Yet, you play the game now, and they still have no bugs. For all intents and purposes the network code was fixed in early February.

The game itself is disgusting to look at in it's current form. The animations are so poor and clunky that running makes you feel sea sick. You have this little lag, skip, stop, jump, gait run. Then you throw into the game the fact that float jump is still in it and the camera shakes when you move (and it shakes terribly when you run up or down a hill).

The new UI is a total joke. Hey we made it all brown and boxy, it is no longer like WoW! Right? Sure isn't, WoW actually has content you want to play.

Back to the models, the character models are not serious looking, they aren't even decent looking. Limbs are broken, skin looks twisted and deformed, faces are flat and lifeless. They are the ugliest character models in any game you will see. The only game currently available to compare the actual character models with is Everquest, and EQs still look better.

The gaming experience, especially the new part literally consists of 4 quests that have you talk to 4 people before it puts you right back at the original starter zone from the "Soft-launch."

Fighting mobs is slow and tedious as well, and they still warp to you. (Which is better than behind or under but still bad for a ranged class.) The talent tree still offers talents that modify spells on the first tier that you won't actually acquire for quite some time.

The game is not fun, the RMT shop sells actual items so you will never have to do an instance in the game. It sells study time so you won't have to wait for an uber character, and it sells 50% faster XP time, because you need to hit level 40-50 and sit around doing nothing even faster.

The game, even taking everything out that I have mentioned has a huge issue. It has no goal. There is no focus to the game. In WoW, WAR, RoM, Allods... there is a reason to hit the level cap. When you play Alganon you are playing it to hit the level cap and that is it. There is no story here, no lore, no reason to hit 50.

Several people who waited for the game to relaunch came back and said they simply have no reason to play because there is still nothing to do. Create a 50 of every class? Easy, only 4 classes.

The game is an example of how to do everything wrong; The game play mechanics are slow, the quests are boring, the animations are horrible, and the models are hideous. The game has no goal to it, just a grind. You can purchase your gear ($5 for level 20 outfit, $9 for 30, $11 for 40), you can purchase you study time, you can purchase a way to speed up your leveling, you can buy a mount and you can buy your repairs. The RMT actually encourages you into buying your way out of playing because the faster you hit the cap the faster you realize how boring the game really is.

In 2009-2010, the expectation is that an MMO doesn't have to recreate the genre, but it should add a unique twist to it. Whether it be combat, pvp, city building, or whatever. Alganon is a 2004 MMO, with 2004 mechanics and graphics. So, if you are stuck in some sort of, this is the way MMOs should always and forever play -- this is the game for you. If you are interested in how games will evolve, or just tired of the same linear gameplay from 2004, pass this by.

If you just want a free MMO to play, grab DDO, RoM, Allods, Perfect World, Tales of Fantasy, or one of the other countless true F2P games available.

Posted: May 3rd 2010 3:03PM Lokasaki said

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Lawl, do ever get tired of doing nothing but bashing this game here and on MMMORPG
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Posted: May 3rd 2010 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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"Lawl, do ever get tired of doing nothing but bashing this game here and on MMMORPG"

First, haven't posted about the game on mmorpg in 2 months, second, I am giving my opinion of the game. You don't have to read it, you don't have to like it, you certainly don't have to respond to it. So, no, I don't get tired of bashing a really poorly made game on any forum. You know why? Because, it's my choice to do so and the game is poorly made.
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