Admit it: even the nicest amongst us have a deep-rooted grudge against a particular class. Our foe. Our bane. Our arch-nemesis. It's the class we squint at in anger whenever we see them pop up on the battlefield or in our PUGs. It's the class that gives us physical hives whenever we come into close contact with one of their members. It's the class that we gladly devote a nine-page rant against on the official game forums, calling for their extermination, or at the very least, to be neutered.
So what's your arch-nemesis class? Is it a class that repeatedly stamps all over your face in PvP? A class that is -- obviously -- so OP that you can't stand it? Perhaps it's a class that does whatever your class does, but better and with more flair. Maybe your arch-nemesis class seems to attract more mentally unstable and emotionally immature players than usual. So get it off your chest today -- which class is your arch-nemesis?
Reader Comments (25)
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 8:24AM (Unverified) said
Wow, who are you mad at? lol
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 8:46AM (Unverified) said
I would say druids. They always seem underpowered in most games, their voice actor always uses a whiny delivery, and for some reason they remind me of Nicolas Cage.
Runner up would be Bards. All buffs, no Pew-pew.
Runner up would be Bards. All buffs, no Pew-pew.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 8:36AM Scuffles said
Anything with stunlock ....... or any sort of lock for that matter
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 8:42AM Crsh said
DPS casters, there's always something inherently whacked about having a class that can do that much damage from a safe distance - them being physically weak (typically that's how it's balanced) is their Achilles' heel, getting in close range is usually half the fight though.
Also, who peed in your corn flakes this morning? :P
Also, who peed in your corn flakes this morning? :P
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 8:47AM Nolinquisitor said
Being a City of Villains player... Well... I am the nemesis of some other guy.
Repeat the question please. Oh... and empty your wallet while at it.
Repeat the question please. Oh... and empty your wallet while at it.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 8:48AM Pewpdaddy said
I typically lean towards a pure healer / raid healer, so any of the burst dmg classes normally anger me, either squishy caster / squishy melee ... Though when I alt them out I enjoy them thoroughly ^^ Currently playing a lot of Global Agenda and it seems that the Recons like to bum rush my Medic... But hey when I play my Recon thats what I do as well. =p
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 9:03AM cycro99 said
Any class that abuses the sh*t out of kiting/stunlocking.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 9:11AM Pewpdaddy said
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 9:14AM archer75 said
Rogues used to be, now they are easy. Pallies can be a problem. And frost mages.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 9:48AM breezer said
Any obvious Flavor of the Month.
I guess the first time I experienced it was with Rangers in FFXI around 2004. They ruined the game for any DD job that wasn't Ranger. People only wanted rangers in their parties and weren't afraid to let you know how disappointed they were if you were (for a totally random example >.>) a monk.
After that, I'd say Warlocks and Druids a la Arena season 3 WoW. Warlocks were a hard pill to swallow coming from FFXI. Insane DoT (instant cast?! wtf!?) damage, endless control, higher hp and damage reduction than tanks, infinite healing, infinite mana. Just the most blatantly overpowered class I'd ever encountered, so that, to this day, every time I see a warlock, I still judge them, assuming they leveled it when SL/SL was king.
I guess the first time I experienced it was with Rangers in FFXI around 2004. They ruined the game for any DD job that wasn't Ranger. People only wanted rangers in their parties and weren't afraid to let you know how disappointed they were if you were (for a totally random example >.>) a monk.
After that, I'd say Warlocks and Druids a la Arena season 3 WoW. Warlocks were a hard pill to swallow coming from FFXI. Insane DoT (instant cast?! wtf!?) damage, endless control, higher hp and damage reduction than tanks, infinite healing, infinite mana. Just the most blatantly overpowered class I'd ever encountered, so that, to this day, every time I see a warlock, I still judge them, assuming they leveled it when SL/SL was king.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 10:40AM Wisdomandlore said
I wouldn't say Rangers were that popular. It originally took so much money to play one well. And a poor Ranger was just a waste of a spot, since they missed even more than every other class.
The worst were Dark Knights who used scythes at high levels. Great swords hit harder and fit into the Light SC, but most of the noobs didn't have GS leveled. /sigh
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The worst were Dark Knights who used scythes at high levels. Great swords hit harder and fit into the Light SC, but most of the noobs didn't have GS leveled. /sigh
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 11:55AM breezer said
Oh no you dint just say rngs weren't that popular!!
They were extremely popular, as was RMT... It was $30 for 6 million gil, everyone was rich :p
Part of what was so good about RNG was that they actually missed much less than the average DD. Racc (and AGI) gear was always very cheap and very easy to obtain. A level 60 RNG could walk in with all level 30-40 gear, including bow and arrows and still out damage a "pimp" melee DD.
But yes, sidewinder/slugshot miss a lot. lol
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They were extremely popular, as was RMT... It was $30 for 6 million gil, everyone was rich :p
Part of what was so good about RNG was that they actually missed much less than the average DD. Racc (and AGI) gear was always very cheap and very easy to obtain. A level 60 RNG could walk in with all level 30-40 gear, including bow and arrows and still out damage a "pimp" melee DD.
But yes, sidewinder/slugshot miss a lot. lol
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 9:58AM Holgranth said
Depends on the game, depends on what class I am and depends on what point in the games development it is.
In WoW TBC for example, on my Warrior: Hunters, Frost Mages, Ele Shamans (Frost SHOCK), Warlocks, Balance Druids and Shadow Priests all basically could use me as a free HK.
On my Disc Priest life was very different, Rogues, Feral Druids and Fury Warriors were a serious problem but thanks to the power of mana burn and feedback (I really miss feedback) I had a really good chance vs all mana users.
In WoW TBC for example, on my Warrior: Hunters, Frost Mages, Ele Shamans (Frost SHOCK), Warlocks, Balance Druids and Shadow Priests all basically could use me as a free HK.
On my Disc Priest life was very different, Rogues, Feral Druids and Fury Warriors were a serious problem but thanks to the power of mana burn and feedback (I really miss feedback) I had a really good chance vs all mana users.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 10:50AM Ace Noble said
In Champions Online, it is always the Electricity casters with their dreaded Gigabolt and Electrocute hold.
In Wow, it was feral Druids. In Aion, as a templar, I had the most trouble with Mages.
In Eve Online, it is probe scanner ships that track me down in mission space and ninja my loot and/or containers of ore. Then there was Starcraft, back when I first started playing online games. In Starcraft, my nemesis was any race played by any kid under 18 from Korea.
In Wow, it was feral Druids. In Aion, as a templar, I had the most trouble with Mages.
In Eve Online, it is probe scanner ships that track me down in mission space and ninja my loot and/or containers of ore. Then there was Starcraft, back when I first started playing online games. In Starcraft, my nemesis was any race played by any kid under 18 from Korea.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 10:58AM Mr Angry said
Rogues or stealth classes, being stunlocked isn't really fun
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 11:26AM Necromas said
In Guild Wars, mesmers.
In PvP they're annoying because I am always completely reliant on whoever is my monk to remove any hexes I get on me and if I get a bad hex on me then there's nothing I can do except wait for it to be removed.
In PvE they're annoying because, let's face it, they're weak. Yes, there are a few good mesmer builds that can pump a lot of damage or hamper the enemies enough to be worth not doing damage, but few players know them and even fewer know how to use them well.
In WoW and in general, any class that has stunlocks, or when I'm melee, any class that has ridiculous kiting abilities. Mostly because those fights are more dependant on luck, cooldowns, and whether you have enough counters than any other matchup.
In PvP they're annoying because I am always completely reliant on whoever is my monk to remove any hexes I get on me and if I get a bad hex on me then there's nothing I can do except wait for it to be removed.
In PvE they're annoying because, let's face it, they're weak. Yes, there are a few good mesmer builds that can pump a lot of damage or hamper the enemies enough to be worth not doing damage, but few players know them and even fewer know how to use them well.
In WoW and in general, any class that has stunlocks, or when I'm melee, any class that has ridiculous kiting abilities. Mostly because those fights are more dependant on luck, cooldowns, and whether you have enough counters than any other matchup.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 11:28AM (Unverified) said
Rangers/Hunters. They seem to be in every fantasy title (or non-fantasy if a game is particularly daring) I play, and they also have a common theme of being one of the most obnoxious to fight in PvP or otherwise.
Drakes suck as well actually-possibly more. Just go Youtube Alliance Tourney VII and you'll see what I mean.
Drakes suck as well actually-possibly more. Just go Youtube Alliance Tourney VII and you'll see what I mean.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 2:46PM pixledriven said
I think I got the most rage from people in City of Heroes.
2 big ones there : Winter Lord power levelers, and Fire Blasters.
Most folks who PL'd off the winter lords ... well, they didn't know how to play the game for some reason. I don't know how, but it's like fighting them reduced the players IQ through the computer somehow.
Fire blasters just made me rage. I played Defenders almost exclusively. When you're pure Empathy (read: healer) and some guy decides that he's going to PULL with RAIN OF FIRE....
2 big ones there : Winter Lord power levelers, and Fire Blasters.
Most folks who PL'd off the winter lords ... well, they didn't know how to play the game for some reason. I don't know how, but it's like fighting them reduced the players IQ through the computer somehow.
Fire blasters just made me rage. I played Defenders almost exclusively. When you're pure Empathy (read: healer) and some guy decides that he's going to PULL with RAIN OF FIRE....
Posted: Apr 23rd 2010 12:22PM (Unverified) said
In EQ, Bards were the nemesis. Constantly able to do whatever they wanted to do, at blazing speed. WoW mages mimiced a little of what made the EQ Bard so great, but they pale in comparison to the masters of kiting.
In WoW, it was Druids. Not because they were the best at anything, but because they could do EVERYTHING and pretty damned well. They broke the previous MMO mold of hybrids not really being good at anything. So why are they my nemesis? Because as good as they are, they were the whiniest class in WoW. Never satisfied with being almost as good at 4 other classes, they continued to drone on and on in not just their forum, but those of the other classes they often took roles from. I appreciate that Blizzard made them such a great and fun class to play, but as a player of a "pure" class, whatever that means, I resented being defined as one role only, and not really doing it that much better than druids, who never seemed to be satisfied at having the choice to play nearly any role they wanted.
In Eve, my nemesis isn't another class, it's the lifers. The folks that have been playing since the beginning and have ammased great skill point levels. Enough to do several roles well, thus having many more options (if that's what you seek.) It's not that they bother me that much, it's just that as long as they play, you will not catch up. Ever. Fortunately for Eve, this presents less of a problem if you are a focused player who knows what he wants. For a newbie though, it can been not only intimidating, but depressing enough to not even try.
In WoW, it was Druids. Not because they were the best at anything, but because they could do EVERYTHING and pretty damned well. They broke the previous MMO mold of hybrids not really being good at anything. So why are they my nemesis? Because as good as they are, they were the whiniest class in WoW. Never satisfied with being almost as good at 4 other classes, they continued to drone on and on in not just their forum, but those of the other classes they often took roles from. I appreciate that Blizzard made them such a great and fun class to play, but as a player of a "pure" class, whatever that means, I resented being defined as one role only, and not really doing it that much better than druids, who never seemed to be satisfied at having the choice to play nearly any role they wanted.
In Eve, my nemesis isn't another class, it's the lifers. The folks that have been playing since the beginning and have ammased great skill point levels. Enough to do several roles well, thus having many more options (if that's what you seek.) It's not that they bother me that much, it's just that as long as they play, you will not catch up. Ever. Fortunately for Eve, this presents less of a problem if you are a focused player who knows what he wants. For a newbie though, it can been not only intimidating, but depressing enough to not even try.







