Yesterday the MMO world reeled in shock -- and by "reeled in shock" I mean "lined up in queues of over 130,000" -- as Blizzard unveiled the latest high-cost microtransaction: a $25 flying mount in World of Warcraft. This is certainly not the first time that RMT has caused a stir among players, nor will it be the last, but it's certainly a facet of the industry that's here to stay.
So as RMT becomes more widespread, it stands to reason that many Massively readers have experimented, engaged and engorged with microtransactions and item shops. If you have, has there ever been a time when you've ponied up dough for a virtual service or item and come to regret it? Perhaps the item wasn't as, erm, awesometacular as you were led to believe, perhaps you only used it once or twice before growing bored with it, or perhaps you left the game shortly thereafter. Have you ever had microtransactioner's remorse?
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Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:06AM bartillo said
wow... $25 for a mount. Are they serious? and People are paying this? wtf! I still think $10 for a mount in runes of magic is to much.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:43AM yojibalinese said
Lessee... Started the mount queue around 7pm with an 11 hour wait. Finished it about two hours later, not too bad. Totally worth it, the mount is pretty.
Just goes to show you that if your game is great, people will buy your overpriced cashshop items.
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Just goes to show you that if your game is great, people will buy your overpriced cashshop items.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 2:36PM Anatidae said
Hah, make that 3.5million for the queue.
Man, think about that. Lets say that their artists took a whole month to build those objects. But, honestly, no way it took them a month. Most of the assets are reused from other WoW models. For the sake of it, we will just assume that a team of, oh 5 people worked non-stop to create these models for a whole month.
Now, lets pretend for a moment that these 5 people make salaries that you wish you made. We will say $120,000/year. 3D artists find themselves in the 35-70 range these days based on experience, but we will just pretend.
So, Blizzard spends $50,000 in art costs. And we will even pretend the same man hours are needed to get all this online. Another $50,000. And server bandwidth is cheap, but we will pretend it isn't. Another $50k - obviously someone is embezzling from the company, but Blizzard don't care! Why?
Even if you think of extreme stupid costs, Blizzard still made over $3,350,000 in, what, a day?
But, lets be real. Blizzard grosses at least 3 million every day from their subscribers alone. What Blizzard makes from WoW in a week, you could live the rest of your life in comfort on.
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Man, think about that. Lets say that their artists took a whole month to build those objects. But, honestly, no way it took them a month. Most of the assets are reused from other WoW models. For the sake of it, we will just assume that a team of, oh 5 people worked non-stop to create these models for a whole month.
Now, lets pretend for a moment that these 5 people make salaries that you wish you made. We will say $120,000/year. 3D artists find themselves in the 35-70 range these days based on experience, but we will just pretend.
So, Blizzard spends $50,000 in art costs. And we will even pretend the same man hours are needed to get all this online. Another $50,000. And server bandwidth is cheap, but we will pretend it isn't. Another $50k - obviously someone is embezzling from the company, but Blizzard don't care! Why?
Even if you think of extreme stupid costs, Blizzard still made over $3,350,000 in, what, a day?
But, lets be real. Blizzard grosses at least 3 million every day from their subscribers alone. What Blizzard makes from WoW in a week, you could live the rest of your life in comfort on.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 4:15PM Joshua Przygocki said
Nothing wrong with people making money...
As long as it's (mostly)legal, and someone is willing to buy it, have at it.
Things like this form the backbone of capitalism, and no matter how overpriced or worthless, people will still buy it.
Personally, I think they should look a bit more at the supply and demand aspect though and lower the price so more people would buy it.
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As long as it's (mostly)legal, and someone is willing to buy it, have at it.
Things like this form the backbone of capitalism, and no matter how overpriced or worthless, people will still buy it.
Personally, I think they should look a bit more at the supply and demand aspect though and lower the price so more people would buy it.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:09AM swarmofcats said
The official forums are hilarious with how upset people are over that horse. I was just browsing there and easily 1/2 the threads are about the new mount. One person who bought the mount was complaining about how everyone in Dalaran has the mount. Wtf is wrong with ppl?
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 9:29AM i2hellfire said
what? other people have $25 dollars too? that's unpossible!
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Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:17AM Itanius said
To answer the question at hand: No, I've never had microtransactioner's remorse. I put more than 10 seconds of thought into it before clicking the button of no return. If I'm even a little bit reluctant, I'll sleep on it.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:21AM dudemanjac said
Like I said way back when CO came out, there are suckers with disposable income who will buy this crap.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:22AM ed511df3 said
It's 25 dollars for a mount that you keep forever, scales to whatever riding skill you have, and most importantly, you get on every single character on that account, past, present, and future. When put in that perspective, 25 dollars seems pretty cheap when compared to permanent mounts on F2P games. I think the people complaining are making much ado about nothing. After all, Blizzard has been selling mounts for years through the TCG. And those mounts are good for only one character, don't usually scale with riding skill, and on average will cost far more than 25 dollars because you aren't guaranteed a mount with every pack, or even every box.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 9:26AM Deadalon said
No.. you dont keep it forever. You STILL will have to buy a SUB to enjoy it.
Thats something you dont have to in Free to play games. There you buy items that you then OWN in the sence you can use them whenever you like. This is NOT the case in WOW. You will have to PAY them more to get access to your asset that you already bought.
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Thats something you dont have to in Free to play games. There you buy items that you then OWN in the sence you can use them whenever you like. This is NOT the case in WOW. You will have to PAY them more to get access to your asset that you already bought.
Posted: Apr 17th 2010 6:33AM ChromeBallz said
That's a false economy...
You don't get the riding skill for free, which is by far the biggest expense. The mounts themselves cost nothing at all. You're not getting the epic riding skill for free, nor are you getting the cold weather riding skill for free.
Riding skills are 10-25 times more expensive than a mount. A normal flying mount costs 50g, which is a pittance even at level 60. An epic mount costs 200g, which is even less for a level 70, relatively. However, the flying skill is 250g at 60, 5000g at 70 (4000 with northrend rep exalted discount), and 1000g for cold weather flying. So for Northrend flying you're paying at least 1243g20s, at exalted (cold weather flying cannot be discounted), compared to 61g for the level 20, 40 and 60 mounts, total. Even if you include an epic mount, that last figure comes to 261g.
In other words, people are paying $25 for something you can get ingame for just 261g. Given the fact that the celestial steed is more common than ERP'ers in Goldshire by now, that's not really a lot of value for your money is it?
Not to mention the ridiculous lorelol that the mount represents. Seriously, why would there be a horse that looks like Algalon? What possible use would the titans have had for such a thing? Invincible was already a big stretch. This RMT mount is plain stupid, if you ask me.
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You don't get the riding skill for free, which is by far the biggest expense. The mounts themselves cost nothing at all. You're not getting the epic riding skill for free, nor are you getting the cold weather riding skill for free.
Riding skills are 10-25 times more expensive than a mount. A normal flying mount costs 50g, which is a pittance even at level 60. An epic mount costs 200g, which is even less for a level 70, relatively. However, the flying skill is 250g at 60, 5000g at 70 (4000 with northrend rep exalted discount), and 1000g for cold weather flying. So for Northrend flying you're paying at least 1243g20s, at exalted (cold weather flying cannot be discounted), compared to 61g for the level 20, 40 and 60 mounts, total. Even if you include an epic mount, that last figure comes to 261g.
In other words, people are paying $25 for something you can get ingame for just 261g. Given the fact that the celestial steed is more common than ERP'ers in Goldshire by now, that's not really a lot of value for your money is it?
Not to mention the ridiculous lorelol that the mount represents. Seriously, why would there be a horse that looks like Algalon? What possible use would the titans have had for such a thing? Invincible was already a big stretch. This RMT mount is plain stupid, if you ask me.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:33AM (Unverified) said
As a FTP MMO player, I alway put a lot of thought into each new point card. So far, no regrets.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:42AM (Unverified) said
I briefly dabbled in the devil known as F2P MMOs and cash-shops. Every purchase was a regret.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 8:51AM (Unverified) said
I took one long look at the specs and dropped the $25 immediately.
Why? Because not only does the mount scale with an individual character, it gifts all your characters with a mount that runs at the highest skill of any character.
That means if you've blown the 5K gold for a single epic you now have epic mounts for every alt. In my case that's just saved me about 40,000gold in upgrades.
$25? Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Why? Because not only does the mount scale with an individual character, it gifts all your characters with a mount that runs at the highest skill of any character.
That means if you've blown the 5K gold for a single epic you now have epic mounts for every alt. In my case that's just saved me about 40,000gold in upgrades.
$25? Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Posted: Apr 16th 2010 10:11AM Snichy said
Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but I thought the 5k price applied to the training for epic flying not the actual mount. Therefore if you started a new alt you would still have to pay out 5k for the training before flying the new mount at "epic" speed - having this mount doesnt magically grant every alt you have with epic flying, or am I wrong?
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Posted: Apr 16th 2010 10:55AM Its Utakata stupid said
I have to go along with Super Healer here and ask, where does it say this mount makes the epic flying skill Bind on Account?
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