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Posted: Apr 12th 2010 4:15PM urgan said

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Hm, I haven't played ROM since launch. I might have to give it another try now that I know of these addons.

Posted: Apr 12th 2010 4:27PM (Unverified) said

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I don't like Addons. Surely they improve your gaming experience to a certain degree. On the other hand side there are a lot of fake elitist players out there, who are using Addons like Gearscore (calculates a metascore of a player's equipment and enchantments) in World of Warcraft to judge other players. Addons like these affect the Community in a negative way.

Posted: Apr 12th 2010 4:55PM VioletArrows said

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You can't write off *all* addons because of a broken handful. I hated Gearscore as much as anyone with half a bit of sense. But I swear I couldn't live without my "I don't pvp, I don't duel, BUGGER OFF" addon. Man, I miss that thing. Every time I log on to Champions or DDO, I get some cowardly asshat looking for a few 'free' pvp points and won't let it go when I tell them no. I am saddest of pandas they do not have addons, let alone that one.
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Posted: Apr 12th 2010 10:12PM whateveryousay said

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It's not the add-ons that ruin communities, it's the people. Those elitist boners would still be there, judging you, add-on or not.
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Posted: Apr 13th 2010 8:07AM (Unverified) said

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"Addons like these affect the Community in a negative way."

Hrm. I'm going to disagree with you on that one.
As has been mentioned already, it's not the gun per-se, but the person squeezing the trigger.

Frankly, 'Gearscore' is just another requirement that can legitimately come into play, much like any other requirement or gate.

For example, 'level'; I'm not about to invite you to a Heroic L80 in Wow if you're L65.
Why? Not because I'm an elitist asshat, but because it's simply not appropriate. It would ruin the experience for the rest of the group, and be no fun for you. You're just not meant to be there.

Or another example, 'class'. I'm not going to invite you to heal a group if you're a Warrior. Again, because it's simply not appropriate.

The same goes for Gearscore.

I'll happily run pugs or organised groups through Heroic 5-man dungeons to help players gear up once they hit 80 in Wow (otherwise how would they ever get new gear).
BUT, by the same token, if I'm running a 25 man Heroic and need to pug to fill gaps, you betcha I'm going to put a gearscore disclaimer on it.

Why? For the same reason I stated above; it's not going to be fun for anybody present if there's a bunch of 80's wearing blues.. that's tantamount to being plain negligent regarding everybody's time and effort let alone being highly optimistic and unrealistic.

Yes for sure there are people who spam Gearscore requirements for 5-man Pugs in /Trade, but all that should tell you is that they're a candidate for your /ignore list.

There are plenty of runs available in Wow via the RDF (which, by the way, uses it's own gear-gating if you hadn't noticed) to not come down hard upon those that use Gearscore to positive effect.

I can only conclude, TheIncognitoGuy, that you perhaps you aren't at 25-man gear level in WoW (which is fine, we've all been there on the road to Gear Mecca) and therefore don't quite understand it's fair usage, instead seeing it as 'snobbery', and 'affecting the community in a negative way.'

If you ever complained to me that I was a snob for not letting you come on a 25-man TOGC, ICC or LK wearing your
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Posted: Apr 13th 2010 8:11AM (Unverified) said

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(sorry, silly 'less than' sign):

If you ever complained to me that I was a snob for not letting you come on a 25-man TOGC, ICC or LK wearing your less-than-i245 gear, then you'd likely wind up on my ignore list too.

=)
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Posted: Apr 12th 2010 5:17PM (Unverified) said

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I'm just now getting into RoM's add-ons myself, so I haven't tested these thoroughly... but some handy light-weight choices include:
ROMRollBarHook - move the need/greed loot pop-ups, which by default tend to sit on top of your actionbars.
Colorless-Runes - strips color from chat messages so that your default choices for zone/say/whispers take precedence.

I'd be interested in seeing some options for improving the monster card collection. Zzabur's and vyCardInfo both look like they're out of date and accruing some bugs.

Posted: Apr 12th 2010 8:53PM Joshua Przygocki said

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Healbot.... WAR, WoW, oh gawd I love you so much healgrid/bot/squares whatever form you take.

Posted: Apr 13th 2010 8:08AM (Unverified) said

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Xbar II and Ikarus are good addons too!

Last month I post about this :)
http://elpeodigital.blogspot.com/2010/03/runes-of-magic-addons.html
for the spanish comunity

Posted: Apr 13th 2010 6:42AM Seffrid said

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I don't like add-ons for a variety of reasons.

First, they're not always fully compatible with the game and sooner or later they stop being supported by their author. If you are having technical issues with a particular game the developer will wash his hands of your problem if you're using someone else's add-on with it.

Second, the sites that specialise in offering add-ons are very risky from a security point of view. There have been cases where major hacking/billing issues are related to visitors/users of such sites - including possibly the current major crisis with Mythic where some have suggested that Curse may be a common link between affected players.

Third, I dislike the idea that in order to get the most out of a game you need to set up a different UI to the one the developer provided - why can't developers design a decent and fully customisable UI in the first place?

Posted: Apr 13th 2010 12:36PM VioletArrows said

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"Why can't developers design a decent and fully customisable UI in the first place?"
Because then the game would never come out if we waited for them to come up with every possible option for a UI. People come out with new ideas all the time; look at WoW still getting new dozens of new addons a day 5 years later, and there will definitely be many more new ideas when Cataclysm comes out.

Plus, a heavily bulked down UI with *too much* to toy with initially turns people off. They get frustrated that they have to spend possibly the first *day* just hitting all the switches on and off, and can't find which one is making some annoying box pop up at inopportune times, or numbers are blocking a bar, or some loud annoying warning sound/light keeps coming on, or the map shows up too small or too big... it'd be a mess. When you have a simple UI that works from the get-go and people can add what they want, when they want, it can make everyone happy.

When I had started WoW and saw that everyone had all these elaborate (and in my mind hideously cluttered) UI's, I thought I would never do that. Then I tried a simple background one to decline and hide pvp. Then another one for their crappy ass maps (starting with a blank map? REALLY?!), then another one to help me when I couldn't keep track of all the quests I had. My addon list at the time I stopped playing has about 30 in it, and I certainly could've downloaded a lot more if I weren't lazy.
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Posted: Apr 13th 2010 8:20PM jeremys said

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I agree. You should use your discretion when choosing addons for any game. Creators could stop updating or supporting one at any time. It pays to keep an eye on that.

While I don't know if there have been problems with other players, I have been using Curse.com, and their software, for a year now without ever having problems. It's a big, popular site, and apart from any site or software being prone to nefarious attacks, I trust it.

I don't feel the default UI is poor in anyway. That's not why I use addons. RoM's default UI is actually fairly standard and everything works fine. As far as built-in customization? I feel RoM's is very nice. Open up the function menu and explore it. I've found it be very versatile on its own, and I use the settings liberally, in conjunction with addons.
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Posted: Apr 13th 2010 1:22PM Thrasher said

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Well its apparent by some of these comments that several of you have never actually played rom.
1.Curse.com where all the addons come from is well established and safe (most of the time).
2. as the rom dev's have seen fit as to leave certain systems very unrefined and an overwhelming lack of even basic directions or explanations the addons here are very welcomed and extemely helpful.
3. There is no way in rom to assess someones gear or rate said gear other then giving them a visual inspection and asking whats your mag att or whats your def as EVERY gear for endgame is being custom built by the players themselves and with the depth of the systems, weapon effects (on skills), and skill system variables I would think it would be a lot for an addon to try and assess all this info.

on a side note my fav's were:
pbinfo (aggro meter), stat rating(what attrib's actually effect), inv viewer(awsome for multi toons), adv auction house (with search filters)
. and once you use them the first reaction is usually "why didnt the dev design it like this in the fist place lol

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