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Posted: Mar 18th 2010 7:00PM Graill440 said

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A garbage lecture from a person looking at a world through rose colored glasses with no grasp on reality. Ted.com is a grant joke. Its people looking for ideas to give them reasons to get grants, simple fact when you boil it down. Read some of the speeches and look at the "majority" of the audiences. (not all)

She has no concept of hardship in its crudest form, she does not grasp fanatical religion (all), she does not grasp the concept of total sacrifice with total anonymity, and most importantly she does not grasp the simple concept of the simplest reality. Hope, they have plenty of that, hoping the lecture they gave will get them more cash in some form of grant money and hope that ignorant folks that are like minded will buy into what they said.

You can listen to a speech or lecture, but at some point you have to say stop, your not making sense, your basing your ideas on things "you" think are best or correct or are the way they should be in "your" mind. I did some research, i havent seen her name associated with any horrible situations, world travel, conflict resolution, or aid work, maybe i missed something. Has she traveled the world for over ten ears? twenty years? thirty? living with various cultures, to earn the right to stand there and give the type of speech she did? No. She is a dev, with high and mighty ideals and trying to garner a following and having no clue. Like most folks of her ilk they put their hand in a fire, determine it is hot, and hurts, and figure thats all the wisdom they need to draw word changing views from. Rubbish.

At the very least these people need to make their speeches and lectures (not just hers) less self serving in the idea dept. They need to have the credentials to back up what they talk about and the reasoning behind the ideas, what spawned them, the experiences and the solution for a particular goal or problem. She sounded like a news anchorwoman with all the spin and hype.

Clueless, but o so excited.

Posted: Mar 18th 2010 10:42PM (Unverified) said

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You clearly have absolutely no idea who this woman is. Aside from being one of the most brilliant academic minds in gaming today, she is also one of the most forward thinking individuals influencing the fields of Collective Intelligence and Serious Games for education and social/policy change.

She's not just "some developer". She helped develop and orchestrate one of the largest experiments in cross-cultural collective intelligence ever conducted, has written several papers of academic significance, and has strong ties to MIT's gaming labs. She knows exactly what she is talking about. Almost no one in the field today has the authority to speak on the power of gaming to transcend cultural boundaries that Jane McGonigal has.
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Posted: Mar 19th 2010 7:17AM Dblade said

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But she is clueless when it comes to people.

Seriously, 5 minutes in Barrens chat, Forumfall, EvE's recruitment channel, or Xbox Live will show that people are even worse in games than in real life. We can't even solve the problem of how to be polite to each other in games.

And tbh she sounds like some sheltered, clueless kid. I love how people say we can solve world hunger when in their own cities they can't even get a decent employment rate, or people sleep in their cars or under bridges. Just ticking off a list of buzzwords that the rich like to spout need solving while ignoring real change which might need more sacrifice than making boring edutational games.

Protip: you cannot save the world. You may be able to make your own part of it better, but that takes real thinking and real goals and sacrifice. As much as I love games, they do nothing to help that: we need to be told to put down the games once in a while and go out and do things that matter.
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Posted: Mar 19th 2010 10:07AM Thac0 said

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You are the biggest troll on Massively and you have no clue what you are talking about. You couldn't even figure out who she was and what shes done which a small amount of goo-giligence could have provided you. FAIL.
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Posted: Mar 19th 2010 11:04AM Wensbane said

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In all honesty, her academical accomplishments matter very little, when she can't even get a large part of her "target audience" to agree with her. As can be seen in this very section.

Also, Suksendal, I'm sure everyone here would agree that it's important to accept differing opinions...

You may see her as "the most brilliant academic mind in gaming today" and I may see her as just another person with completely unrealistic views and expectations of humanity.
There is no right or wrong in this situation, simply different interpretations of the same subject.

My honest (key word) reply, is that while watching her video, I just couldn't stop thinking: "Oh no, not ANOTHER let's use product/activity X to save the world lecture!".
Because trust me, they're EVERYWHERE these days. And most of them are based on (abstract) ideas that hold no tangible value to me.

Again, I'm sure she wanted to inspire me greatly by using the phrase "EPIC WIN!" a couple hundred (?) times, it just didn't work. My apologies.
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Posted: Mar 18th 2010 7:14PM (Unverified) said

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It can deffinately solve the problems of the world.

But don't forget why our world is broken as it is.We live in a tribal patriarcal world where the old men feeds upon the younger.

I take this directly from a YouTube presentation at Yale University talking about populations around the world.

Posted: Mar 18th 2010 7:30PM (Unverified) said

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I am a big fan of TED lectures but this one is way out there. Usually I like them, in fact sometimes I share them with those who will listen but honestly this is bordering on the obsurd. Please don't mistake me, I love the sentiment but I'm not convinced.

But hey, I just started playing Eve so well... lets get her an Eve account and talk about community.

Posted: Mar 18th 2010 7:31PM (Unverified) said

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How dos the "kill 10 rats" quests fitt into here talk? Do she want dump down the "real world gameplay" just like WoW?

Posted: Mar 18th 2010 11:36PM (Unverified) said

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There are reasons we behave differently. Anonymity and lack of consequence allows people to accomplish tasks without threat of punishment. Then you have to take into account that, in a game, people have ALL the tools required to achieve their goals (and then some).

Games don't represent real world situations, which is why people become more confident while playing them. Real challenge requires REAL talent and skill to overcome. Do you really think some 16 year old kid, that's barely getting a passing grade, is going to be able to solve a real world problem JUST because you make a game out of it?

No.

Posted: Mar 19th 2010 5:33AM (Unverified) said

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In a brainstorm a great, genius sometimes, ideas can come from anywhere. I mean literally anywhere. It might even be the silliest sentence uttered by a 3 year old toddler. It could be a toast popping out of the machine, if the event happened to be somehow connected to what you're brainstorming. Anything.

Surely you must be aware of this.

We are at a point where thinking out of the box and using any means available to solve the problems is needed. She is great at that.
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Posted: Mar 19th 2010 6:52AM (Unverified) said

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She's not talking about one person playing a game and solving a world problem. She is one of the foremost minds working in the field of COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE. Collective. Collaborative. Every hear the phrase, "No one knows everything, Everyone knows something."?
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Posted: Mar 19th 2010 12:49PM (Unverified) said

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I'm well aware of the fact that everyone can contribute to society in some way, but we're not talking about general problem solving here (where large tasks can be broken down into smaller ones). Complex problems require real intelligence to solve, not just knowledge. If our problems were simply a matter of information, Google would be able to solve everything. If they were a matter of manpower, we wouldn't have problems at all.

Now I'm not saying the ideas in this video are bad in any way or that they couldn't be useful. I'm just saying that a bunch of kids playing a game aren't going to come up with a unified field theory, EVER.
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Posted: Mar 19th 2010 10:55AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, this reminds me of Jesse Schell's speech at DICE a bit. I'm just a little suspect on whether games can actually engender better behavior. Several good points though. My reactions to Schell's speech can be found here (if anyone is interested): http://ditchingotis.com/front-page/2010/3/12/you-just-ate-a-pickle-bonus-points-awarded-level-up.html

Posted: Mar 19th 2010 1:57PM (Unverified) said

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It's not crazy at all, I've got one game I'm designing that promotes awareness in a fun way.

But can it get funded so people will play it.

Posted: May 31st 2010 2:11AM (Unverified) said

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Unfortunately they are really boring. I looked into teh Evoke game shes running now and I cant find anything fun about it.it's all about virtual woarld that has nothig intersting

http://pspsystems.org/

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