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Posted: Mar 14th 2010 6:01PM (Unverified) said

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Why is this article fully extended on the main page?

Posted: Mar 14th 2010 6:25PM (Unverified) said

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Fixed! Thanks
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Posted: Mar 14th 2010 7:35PM Cinnamoon said

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"In fact, player demographic data shows that most players prefer to live in the more casual environment of high security space."

This is actually really interesting. The game is marketed as a hardcore PvP space sandbox, and certainly the most vocal players like to present the game as a cutthroat environment where only the cunning and ambitious can survive. And yet, most people don't actually seem to want to play that way.

It's not the players that surprise me so much -- the same trend was evident in UO a decade ago. Contrary to the popular "Trammel killed UO" fable, UO's subscription rate actually spiked up following the introduction of Trammel (a mirror image of the old world, sans the open PvP). People didn't really like being ganked repeatedly. No great amazement.

I start to wonder whether softcore players just prefer to think of themselves as hardcore, by playing nominally hardcore games... but playing only the softcore parts of them.

Posted: Mar 14th 2010 8:13PM motorun said

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Many of those in empire are industry alts of low sec and null players. Also, high sec industry, science and exploration can be very cutthroat but with currency / trade instead of ship to ship pvp ...its market pvp. Eve really isnt just a pvp sandbox with spaceships its more of a galaxy emulator with a deep sci fi story. Naturally there are those who would disagree but thats my take on it.
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Posted: Mar 18th 2010 1:14PM (Unverified) said

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i agree. i play EVE because i love the idea of an open world space sandbox, but i don't like PvP. and:. most pvp people i met at eve fanfest in iceland had a REAL problem, not being able to talk about anything else than shooting stuff. those who play eve not based on pvp but want to build, create networks and socialize turned out to be more interesting rl people too, at least for me. ccp should focus more on the non-pvp parts of gameplay. eve is a scifi world.
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Posted: Mar 14th 2010 7:48PM (Unverified) said

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I'm pretty curious about playing this game now, does anyone have one of those longer trials?

Posted: Mar 14th 2010 8:16PM DrewIW said

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Send an email to c.lucinus@gmail.com, I'll hook you up with a 21 day trial.
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Posted: Mar 14th 2010 8:17PM Halldorr said

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It's a pretty fun game. I like how I can train while offline so I am not obligated to be on for X hours if I don't have to be or don't want to be.

I have a 21 day pass Phaesis, not sure how I can get it to you though.
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Posted: Mar 14th 2010 8:19PM vatrak said

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If you have steam, you can get a 21-days trial without needing to be recruted by someone.
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Posted: Mar 14th 2010 11:38PM (Unverified) said

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The profit imbalance has a lot to do with it. Why risk life and limb in 0.0 space when you can make more profit running level 4 missions, relatively safe, in highsec?

Posted: Mar 14th 2010 11:52PM Sabbatai said

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To help get your standing to .80 and above as required for Faction warfare or just for some extra ships and money just do the tutorial missions 3 times each. There are 3 starter stations for each faction.

The Amarr for example have a starter station in Pasha, Deepari and Conoban systems. Do all the tutorials in one, then fly to the other systems to do them there as well.

You get a nice amount of money and ships to start with, and get .92 standing or there about.

This is extremely boring but it gives you time to learn the game and ask questions in the Rookie Help or Help channels.

Posted: Mar 15th 2010 1:32AM (Unverified) said

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Actually if your account is new/trial completing all the advanced career tutorials one time through will give you a letter of referal from the advanced combat agent that will let you skip the .8 grind and get right into factional warefare.

I tried it out on an alt about two weeks ago, my standing was .49 by the time i finished the career tutorials and i had my letter of referal in hand along with the name of a fw agent to report too.
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Posted: Mar 15th 2010 1:25AM (Unverified) said

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Cool article. I definitely prefer the casual content over low sec. As someone else mentioned, low/null sec tends to be populated by the same types of people that couldn't wrap their heads around why UO became more successful after Trammel launched.

Posted: Mar 15th 2010 1:34AM (Unverified) said

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As I recall the only people who complained were the pvp'ers who hung out at the midpoint between britain and crossroads heh. Everyone else, myself included, flocked to the pve copy of the world and flicked our fingers at the pkers.

Posted: Mar 15th 2010 4:47PM runzwithsizzorz said

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Often times I try and and have some sort of goal before I log on. I will log on in the AM, check skills and see if anyone in my corp is on and maybe chew the fat a bit. In the afternoon, I will fire up Eve at work and loft the chats for the most part. I usually scan down a WH or two in my home system, scan them out, and have my plans all set for when I log on back at home. Lately, I have been probe scanning like an S.O.B. and working on my technique. Astrometric skills will only get you so far.

High Sec can really be a drag, especially if you are part of a WH corp and no one back home is inclined to do much scanning. High sec is actually a pretty lonely place when you really think about it.

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