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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 1:28PM (Unverified) said

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WAR failed because it was made by Mythic and NOT BioWare! Sure both are EA companies but they have diff. ppl working for each sub-company (think Mark Jacobs).

Posted: Mar 11th 2010 2:34PM CCon99 said

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EA was partly to blame as well as Mythic. Mythic was guilty of thinking they knew what players wanted better then their players. EA was guilty of getting greedy and forcing them to launch before the game was ready.

But yes, BioWare had nothing to do at all with WAR's failure.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 1:42PM BubleFett said

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Is good to know that EA is willing to put money
into Star Wars the Old Republic.

Sony's SWG has a lot to worry about.
Players from that mmo will eventually migrate to SWOR.

Posted: Mar 11th 2010 2:42PM Ayenn said

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Don't bank on a substantial number migrating. I would guess about half of the SWG population, or more, are dedicated crafters. TOR will not be able to satisfy them in any way shape or form. They will either stay as long as possible, move to the emulator, or simply quit MMORPGs when SWG inevitable gets shut down. There is nothing out there nearly as satisfying in crafting for the SWG crafters.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 6:48PM wjowski said

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If (and this is a big if) SWTOR is going to be anywhere near the number of players WoW they'll mostly likely be coming outside of the standard MMO demographic.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 2:41PM (Unverified) said

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TOR probably won't live up to the hype, but if Bioware delivers as they did with Mass Effect 2 in listening to fans and making a better game (over Mass Effect 1), then it has a good chance of being really great. I hope so. WoW is so dated, Blizzard has horrible customer service, and we need some competition. I'm just afraid that it won't innovate enough.

WAR didn't fail because of EA, it failed because it tried to do everything rather than pick a niche and excel at that. They should've made it an RvR game and ignored the PvE, made it open world rather than theme park. They tried to take on WoW, which was just silly. Walk before you run. Be a master of one thing, rather than mediocre at all.

Posted: Mar 11th 2010 2:55PM Critical Mass said

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Before I even consider subscribing to this game in the future, I want to see a piechart showing in detail what the developers have spent their time, resources and money into.

So if it is all just fluff, I won't bother with it. I wonder how much time they spend on actually designing and improving the game design as such.

Posted: Mar 11th 2010 3:30PM Cicadymn said

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If anyone can do it. Bioware can.

Surely at this point. Having worked with EA quite a bit. Surely Bioware is the sole group able to control that titan and say "If we need more money. You'll give us more money. If we need more time. You'll give us more time." and EA should quietly oblige.

Because when Bioware gets its way. Money is made.

Posted: Mar 11th 2010 8:57PM cdave said

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Is your comma key broken?
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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 5:14PM (Unverified) said

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I hope this is a good game, but I don't actually have very high expectations for it.

BioWare have absolutely zero reputation in the MMO field. Who knows what this thing will be like... personally I'm totally against the voiceover aspect of the game. Seems pointless especially considering the number of people I know who skipped every single bit of dialogue in the KotOR games. I didn't, but so many did.

Also consider the voiced-over sections of, say, WoW. What has happened in every patch to those sections? That's right, they're skippable now. Repetition is fine, but when the repetition is say five minutes of dialogue that you see every time you run some mission, who's going to watch that?

I know there are a ton of people who are really excited for SWToR, but I don't see how anyone can say how good or bad it will be until we get some hands on time. Once some beta gets going, then we'll see how they respond to the player feedback. This is the most important time for an MMO in this day and age, as we have seen what happens to games that release without considering the beta player's feedback.

Every time I see people on message boards excited about getting into beta, someone always starts to talk about how beta is a time to test the game and find bugs, not to just get a free demo for the game.

I think that someone needs to make sure the developers know that too.

For the record, some of my favorite games of all time were made by BioWare, and I think they're a company with an impressive track record .

I also think that brand loyalty is pointless.

Posted: Mar 11th 2010 6:46PM wjowski said

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"BioWare have absolutely zero reputation in the MMO field"

Before WoW came out Blizzard had zero reputation in the MMO field as well...
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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 9:17PM cdave said

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@Wjowski: Blizzard wasn't up against an MMO titan either.

I'm really on the fence about this one. BioWare really is great at single player games, but the difference between that and an MMO is huge. The difficulties in an MMO aren't from the story, visuals, music, or whatever. That's the easy stuff. The problems arise from facilitating and moderating player interaction, and catering to player needs. MMO players are innately selfish, because their avatar is a reflection of them; it's not so much like that in a single player game.

I've no doubt that they can make a decent game. I'm more worried about the thousands of players who suddenly realize that the game isn't WoW and then want WoW-like, then start crying and saying they never believed in the game in the first place.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2010 6:49PM wjowski said

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We'll see. If nothing else if it succeeds it'll stay Bioware's imminent evisceration by EA for a few years...or maybe months.

Posted: Mar 13th 2010 12:46PM (Unverified) said

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After looking heavily at all the information they have put out so far , i can honestly say that i'm impressed but one thing has got me worried the size of endgame content ..... what in the star wars universe is gona require around 20 supposed jedi and other classes that can be woven into story.
Though i'm sure bioware have it covered and will refine it, they have said that at E3 this year they are going to dropping alot of big details. (There facebook page).

Posted: Mar 13th 2010 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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just released today this is how raids might be impamented
http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/planets/belsavis

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