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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:03AM Loki1 said

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"for one dollar, or one euro, depending on where you are located".

Nice currency converter.
What does america suck for, if not to buy stuff at ridiculously low prices?


Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:10AM Temko said

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1 U.S. dollar = 0.741344799 Euros

Indeed. image the horror.
(btw: Steam does the same exact thing. 49,95 dollar? 49,95 euro! for the same game)

the fact of the matter is simple.

i belive if EvE, WoW or many of the other games did this, that we'd have a whole lot less gold spammers around.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:28AM DarthCheese said

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Except in WoW, trial accounts can't use public chat channels (like Trade), so they can't really spam.

I assume if they expect us to pay for a trial, it wouldn't have such limitations, so if anything this would make spamming even easier.

Nevertheless, I would never even consider paying just to try something out. Especially considering that in most cases there's a "free" alternative, private servers, which are usually good enough to decide whether I like the game enough to buy it or not.

Sure, it probably would help reduce griefing, then again I really doubt it would make any significant difference. Is it really worth losing potential customers, who might have given the game a try if the trial was free?
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:28AM (Unverified) said

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I think it's a fine idea to cut down on gold spammers / kiddies.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:06AM (Unverified) said

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I wholeheartedly say pay the dollar/euro.

Your bank should reverse fraudulent transactions on your credit card, so you just have to be vigilant (I check mine every 2 weeks) to spot dodgy transactions.

This simple barrier will stop griefers and spammers etc.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:15AM (Unverified) said

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I think the small fee is a good thing. Infact I say up the trial fee, increase the trial time and improve the download services with any (if there is any) revenue from it.

The downloads are so large and slow just getting into games can take a while. At least you can download prior to signing up.

I thought you could pay by paypal for the DF trial as well? No need for credit card info that way.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:21AM TheJackman said

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Anyone outside of of Euro county's can care less about the Euro currency converter to Dollar. The game company's sure do not! 1 to 1 sounds like a good deal for me, and enable them to give stock prices unlike the changing currency rates. If you not like it feel free to play on US server.

Anyway I think trial need be free, if you pay for a disk to save yourself the client download times ok, we all known the mmo clients get bigger and bigger. But to get people to pay money for trial or beta is a joke!

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:22AM Aganazer said

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Given the nature of the game it seems to be the best solution possible.

If it were for a normal non-FFA game I would understand why people would get upset, but there are other factors at play here.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:25AM SkuzBukit said

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Do Americans pay VAT?

I'd pay either a Euro or a Dollar, bitching about the conversion rates is immaterial & just amounts to penny pinching, it's a token amount designed to protect the game's existing population, & qualify that you are enabled of the means to buy the game & a subscription.

Free trials are fine and dandy in the PvE games, full loot PvP as Darkfall is by it's very nature shouldn't just open the floodgates as the impact on it's existing players could be catastrophic.

With a paid trial you build in accountability for that player's actions & can ban their credit card if they are guilty of transgressions deemed to be outside of the agreed terms, with a free trial that would not be feasible at all.

Aventurine are doing the right thing for their game, lowering the barrier to entry for anyone with the actual means to become a potential real customer without losing control of the impact the trial (which has no more restrictions in place than current players have).

Without this trial I would not have been prepared to try Darkfall, with it I now am, & I think that this is a very smart move.

P.S. Although I have responded I don't think there was any need for this Blog Entry, it adds nothing to the debate & just gives a second chance to air opinions already expressed.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:28AM Exalier said

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I wouldn't have a problem paying the $1 or 1Euro. 7 days however is a bit short.

I would quite like to see a more advanced trial though. Say pay for a month of game play at (£8.99 / $15). After the month you have the option to buy the full game less the month you have paid, or close the account. Don't offer this straight away, but maybe a month or 2 after release.

I hate buying a new MMO only to discover I don't like it. A month should allow you to truly find out if the game is for you or not.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:05AM SkuzBukit said

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I like that idea.

$1 for a 7 day trial

$15.00 for a 30 day trial

Deducting the $15.00 from the box cost after a 30-day trial & not getting a "free" 30 days with your box purchase makes perfect sense too.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:37AM (Unverified) said

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I think it's a great idea, especially if they give you a fast download.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:33AM BubleFett said

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Not for Darkfall

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:47AM Dread said

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Adventurine that desperate for a quick grab off cash ??

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:59AM SkuzBukit said

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They will not be making much from the trial, take into account the credit card companies charge a fee for the transaction & they'll be making chump change...making money is not the point, lowering the barrier to trying the game out to see if you like it IS.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:01AM (Unverified) said

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I'd like to point out that LoTRO has been offering a free trial for something like 2 years. I haven't seen a gold spammer in over a year playing almost every day. If you are on a trial and spam, any player can right click on your name in the chat window and select 'report as spammer and ignore' If you're on a trial, this means you get locked out of public channels until a mod unblocks you.
If you put proper limitations on Trial accounts, then it's not hard to lock them out.

I'll reiterate as I did in the other thread that once you introduce a monetary transaction, you've made your relationship with that company less casual. If you want me to try your product, offer a glimpse for free. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I am saying that by making this one more hurdle, they'll exclude a large segment of their potential market. Perhaps its illogical, but popular sentiment rarely is.

Yes I have a credit card, and yes do and have handed out my credit card to several mmos / online game stores.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:09AM SkuzBukit said

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Is LOTRO an unrestricted full PvP game with full loot & no levels?

The impact a trialist has on LOTRO's population is nothing compared to what it will be in Darkfall.

Horses for courses.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:14AM SkuzBukit said

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Just to add to my earlier comment.

To add the kinds of restrictions necessary to reduce the impact a trialist would have on the existing Darkfall population you would need to restrict them from what the game is actually about, unrestricted PvP with full loot & doing that would remove the point of even trying the game out.

In short, restrictions that work in a PvE game to limit impact just wouldn't work in Darkfall.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 12:33PM alucard3000 said

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bs, stop trying to make out DF to be any different than any other game its not that leet. Age of Conan is ffa pvp on pvp servers and they have free trial and even more now they have unlimited free trial til lvl 20 on starter zones you just cant talk on public channels or trade with other players
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:27PM SkuzBukit said

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Where did I say Darkfall was any better than other games?

Just because some games do things one way why should that be justification for doing it the same way everywhere?

Take off the blinkers, stop thinking that everyone should do the same thing, they shouldn't, each company should do things the way they feel is best for their game.

Free thinking upsets some people because conformity suits them better, there are times when following the herd makes sense & times when doing your own thing is better.
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