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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:11AM (Unverified) said

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From what I can see, the internet at large has resolved to simply not buy from their cash shop, and make their servers bog down as much as possible so they aren't turning a profit at this rate.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:21AM TheGreatMachine said

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The prices stopped my interest in the title dead in it's tracks. The then announced changes to FoD curb stomped the remainder.

If I was to spend $20 dollars on DDO I could buy new maps, classes or races. What does Allods offer for the same? Exactly.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 1:26PM Distaste said

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Pretty much the same.

They need to learn that Cash shops need to be about convenience & cosmetics. However when doing convenience you cannot Inconvenience players into forcing them to pay for things in the cash shop.

Good things are stacks of crafting items, a big pimp hate, a super cool non-combat pet, an awesome mount skin, XP increases, etc.

Bad things are stat increases where you're forced to buy to be competitive. Death penalty removers you're forced to buy to be competitive or even play. Any sort of item that gives a major advantage to the people that are paying.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:24AM (Unverified) said

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First off lets start by saying to each to each their own and everyones going to do what they want to do. IMO, if we as gamers promote this by paying these high prices, most likely it will just continue to get worse. I will maybe play but will never pay . Its no skin off my back with the wide variety of mmos available. Now are all those mmos good? That is a whole other story! Alot of people will take the stance that, Oh its a biz , they must profit cause thats what a biz does. Doesnt mean it isn't a shady biz tho with a bad rep now.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:28AM Wensbane said

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"Has the entire brouhaha and ill-received response soured your opinion of Allods Online irrevocably?"

Well, not my opinion of Allods Online itself, because I still think the game is good, but it has certainly soured my opinion of Gala-Net (which wasn't that good to begin with).

All I can say is that I had no problem turning my back on Spellborn, because of the whole "Acclaim fiasco" (aka the IP blocking incident) and I will have no problem doing the same to Allods, now that the Gala Group has forced it into self-destruct mode.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:35AM (Unverified) said

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I've just returned to AoC and been done with it.

It was fun while it lasted in CBT4.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:36AM (Unverified) said

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All I can say is that I took the money I was going to spend on Allods Online and spend $40 in RoM's Cash Shop and another $15 to renew my AoC subscription. So that is at least $45 Allods lost from me that I would have spent if not more.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:38AM Averice said

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My opinion hasn't changed yet. It's still beta, I haven't reached a point where I've been forced to spent money in order to move forward. The company knows about the complaints, I don't really see an issue. Though honestly all Allods has done for me is want to renew my 6 month lapsed wow subscription... if only I could start on a nelf mage right now instead of patch Cata... maybe the nelf mage will be available for 4.0 even!

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:46PM (Unverified) said

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Mmmmm... Nelf Mage.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:46AM SkuzBukit said

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I think it is a great pity that such a promising title has been mis-managed in such a callous & insulting way, insulting the fans thinking they would be so completely stupid as to not see that the Gala-Net & GPotato approach was so unremittingly geared towards taking the players for total schmucks.

There are many alternative games to compare item shops with yet few offer any kind of percieved value for money, microtransactions are meant to offer a "little & often" piecemeal approach to affordably allow players to support the game of their choice, like buying a bag of pick 'n mix, instead they took a cynical approach that showed no faith in the game's longevity & instead was trying to ride off the back off the considerably high-profile of the game to make a fast buck before a competitor came along.

This kind of short sighted approach NEEDS to have backfired in the quite spectacular way that it has in order to send a clear message to the greedy bastards at those companies that they are totally irresponsible in their handling of this title & this outrage is a clear vote of no confidence.

Allods has real potential but this is being murdered in it's infancy by this pathetic price-gouging mentality, their so-called damage control only served to fan the flames even harder & the news on the grapevine for upcoming patches only amplifies the disquiet.

The internet gaming community that was at one time eagerly anticipating the game is voicing it's concerns, but in as strong a way as it can, a total boycott of the item shop may result from this, hopefully will, words need to be put into action or more titles will only take the same heinous approach.

It's an insult, players know that games need finance, they aren't stupid, but they won't stomach being robbed blind like this, personally I loved the game, but this has changed my attitude, they won't get a single penny from me till they turn this around, & until they do I & others like me will work to warn people off this game.

Value for money or GTFO.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:53AM (Unverified) said

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My friends almost convinced me to try it out, but in one fail swoop they killed any chance of that. Bad enough with the prices but it shows this management company has no idea what they are doing and who knows the many and varied ways they are going to screw up a decent gaming environment over the coming months. Cryptic has soured me on games with poor management and I am not about to jump into another one.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:54AM Meagen said

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I still have trouble figuring out which one's Allods and which is Alganon...

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:54AM MewmewGrrl said

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I've definitely lost faith and confidence in the game, and therefore I just don't feel like playing it now.

When I first logged on, I saw a great world, an awesome translation, story quests that interested me so that I actually read all the quest text instead of skipping it. It was so very promising.

The Cash Shop was blow 1. It seriously makes so little sense, and I'm just generally getting sick of Cash Shop games that companies are playing (Wonderking from nDoors played stupid CS games before this and made me quit that one). This was just silly, and really Gpotato would have been better off not responding at all. Telling us this was done on purpose, and they will evaluate how it goes (see if people are stupid enough to pay that much) before seeing if changes are needed. Maybe they knew something we didn't, and wanted to re-coup more of the money invested into getting the game going here by screwing us as players over. Because the game is definitely going on a suicide run in Russia. The new people that took it over have one interest, making as much money as possible no matter what it does to the game or their reputation in the process. They have zero long term sight, they want to just get all they can out of it and burn the game into the ground doing it. The changes they decided to make, the direction they wanted to go made the main designer go away completely and then they just started to ruin the game more and more. Once those patches come to our shores, it's game over, so why even put effort into it now?

I'd love to have played for years in that world, spending reasonable amounts of money as it went on (I'm a person who buys tons of costumes and ends up spending a lot more than $15 a month on "F2P" games). But these two forces have pretty much destroyed it for me, I haven't been back on, I'm just looking to put my time elsewhere instead of wasting it there.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:59AM Tizmah said

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I've learned the hard lesson that MMOs don't get much better than WoW right now, so I'll just give it a rest on MMOs for a while since I'm tired of WoW. Someone wake me in 2011 please.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:01AM Scuffles said

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I really don't see what not playing the game will do

I understand that some people see playing the game as indirectly supporting the CS because people will possibly buy CS items with in game gold(?) on the resale market.

But I really don't think anyone is flat out dumb enough to buy those items right out. So the danger of contributing to the CS indirectly at this point is so minimal that its a non issue for me.

In short will play but won't buy until someone abducts some braincells and gets the CS in order. Really sad because I had been seriously planning on buying from the CS right out the door FoD had sorta put me off a bit. I had even gone as much as buying a new video card for the soul purpose of improving my allods experience .... about three or four months before the first CB was even announced.

Please Allods don't let us down, you still have a small window of time before the second wave of people abandon you.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:04AM wjowski said

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It's like they're purposefully trying to turn people off from the game at this point.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:26AM (Unverified) said

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I'm sad to say that I've given up on Allods.

I was prepared to make this my primary game for the foreseeable future, and buy things in the shop to ease my way through the levels. But I do not want to get fleeced. Allods seems to be set up to make everything very difficult without making some very expensive purchases. Already at level 12 I feel the mobs take to long to kill and I'm left drained of mana after one. If the upcoming patch is to be believed, it's just going to get worse. Rather than having a sense of freedom, I feel constricted. I see no future for me in the game, because I know I'm not going to pay the outrageous prices to prevent the FoD debuff.

It's sad because it's clear a lot of skill was involved in making the game. It's beautiful, interesting, and different. It loads fast and runs smooth. But that same level skill is nowhere to be seen on the business side. To those claiming Gala-Net is greedy, I'd say they're wrong. Gala-Net is stupid.

Businesses thrive when they make their customers happy. I don't mean happy by giving them everything they want for free, but by being observant of their needs and making them feel respected and appreciated. A luxury clothier can sell a $10 shirt to cranky Mr. Weathersbottom for $150 by greeting him with a smile and his name, and remembering how many sugars he likes in his complementary espresso. Overcharging before a relationship has been made however, will just not work.

This company had something that was very valuable even though it can't show up on their balance sheet: a supportive community. I'm sure there would have been some grumbling over any cash shop they could have come up with, but reasonable prices would have kept that to a minimum. And if the early purchasers received an extra freebie in the mail a few days later, they would be happy, and spread the news on the internet. As they progressed in the game, their satisfaction with the game might translate into more sales for various fripperies. And as they invested more in the game, they would be willing to pay to maintain that investment. And as they made friends and played with them, they would feel peer-pressure to maximize their character's usefulness. Ching- Ching!

As it is, even those that use the cash shop will do it grudgingly and with resentment. They'll be in no mood to pay for pets and vanity mounts. They'll just pay for what they need. The peer pressure will now work in reverse, considering you stupid if you pay too much (or anything) to the company.

*Tsk* I cannot understand how these boneheads think. I'm really at a loss.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:33AM (Unverified) said

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My first reaction was to assume it was GPotato's greed, and that Astrum Nival would intervene and put pressure on GPotato to stop dragging their game through the mud., but after scouring the forums I realized that Astrum Nival is as much to blame, if not more so.

I will keep playing since I'm a slow leveler. But I'm not paying those prices.

It's sad that so many people know how good the game is/was but the developers and publishers don't have a clue on what constitutes good business practices.

I am currently suffering from WoW burnout due to too many alts, and was considering quitting WoW and spending that money on Allods Online, but that plan isn't going to happen.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:34AM (Unverified) said

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It's offers very little that is new or special gameplay wise from pay to play games such as WoW, which it is highly derivative of. If it had something new to offer, people might be willing to put forth more cash but it really doesn't. You will be killing lots of rats or termites or cultists at least as of the time I have currently spent in game. You will use the same 2 or three abilities for the first 10 levels of your avatars life. You will collect random bits of bugs or bats or crows for sale to vendors who will offer your slightly better equipment to beat up largers bugs or bats or spiders.

I may spend a few more hours here and there in it but if the cash shop becomes a requirement just to complete a PVE quest, i'll likely find myself with more hard drive space.

Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:46AM (Unverified) said

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I wasn't going to play anyway. Just another WoW knockoff. Amazing to see the nerdrage over the store though.


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