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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 4:21PM Its Utakata stupid said

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That's a bit of a salacious jaw-dropping morsel you dug up there, Amana. :)
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:16PM (Unverified) said

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"They disseminate the news quickly and have a good editorial team who can create a more in depth analysis on that news later down the line."


That would be wonderful - If it were true.

When is the follow up to come that Cryptic was inflating STO numbers by counting all Cryptic accounts as being solely people signed up for STO?

"Already, over 1 million Star Trek fans have created accounts at the official websites."

Making that statement and then later on revealing this "Milestone" includes CO accounts as well as registrants for anything Cryptic is purposefully misleading new customers as well as existing subscribers.

I'm not saying Massively is wrong for releasing the initial statement and I'm glad they posted the correction, but I do find it unsettling that they don't comment upon the fact that the first statement was bullshit. Instead we get "One million registered accounts is a milestone worth mentioning in any situation, but it's always helpful to know for certain what we're congratulating."

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:26PM Anatidae said

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I think we should do Cryptic a solid and register for an account. Not buy the game, oh no. Just register another forum account. And have your friends. Lets give them a few million more so they can boast those numbers.

It is silly anyway. Bragging about how many accounts. Just like when companies brag on how many beta signups they have. It won't change the fact if it is a good game, we will pay for it. If it sucks, we wont. So what if they end up with 10 million accounts, if only a few thousand stay subscribing the games.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:44PM dudes said

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The truth thinnens.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:56PM Celestian said

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It's funny to see the emo/drama queens come out of the wood work. Seriously guys it's a game and if you don't like it (STO or CO) then just get over it and don't buy anymore of their games.

The amount of time some of you people spend trying to put down these guys makes me wonder how dull of a life you must live.

That said a real announcement on how many "active" accounts STO has would have been a better.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:13PM Tizmah said

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It doesn't take much time to write a comment on the internet Celestian. I don't think people really sit in their rooms trying to plot evil schemes on how bad they must tarnish Cryptic.

You can't expect people to be burned by Cryptic and not have a few words to say about them. Because if the negative people can't speak up, then I don't want to hear the positive people either.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:25PM Celestian said

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Burned? IT's a bloody game, you can't get burned. Yeah you can buy a game and not like it.

I'm not a Cryptic cheerleader, I didn't buy STO because it seemed pretty dull but I am a lifer for CO. Make an informed decision and move on.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 2:57PM (Unverified) said

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it has a monthly subscription game so it's not just a game product but a ongoing service so you cna be burned by lousy service.Just because it is a game doesn't excuse it from criticism or prevent someone from feeling they've been burnt.

If the product doesn't deliver what is promised or misrepresents what it offers or trades on the popularity of an IP rather than the quality of theproduc titself then people are gonna feel burnt.They also have the right to say they feel so in any public forum that let's them.

I tried both CO and STO and they weren't for me but I also do not like Cryptic's business and marketing practices so even if I did like the games I'd have question whether I'd give my money to that company.Since I didn't like either as a game I didn't have to ask myself that.

But not everyone is like me(thank god) and some jumped into both or either games because they liked the IP.So they have every right to express their opinion negative or positive as they like.As does peopel who o not liek the way Cryptic behaves.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 4:38PM sandwiches said

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@Celestian
I would call spending $250 on game that has been dead since release getting burnt. Whether it's my fault for buying the game or not, it's irrelevant. I would still call wasting $250 on a game where they promised much more getting burned.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 4:36PM Its Utakata stupid said

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Celestian, if you think we would buy anything more from Cryptic, and if you think informing the public that Cryptic may not be worth the time and money to invest into is just emo QQ, you must clearly have your head up some orifice where little light gets too. Perhaps being the drama queen about our complaints is not in your best interest, when you should of not of wasted anytime by simpley not commenting and ignoring this thread. Non?
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 4:51PM Celestian said

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Explain to me how CO is "dead". I still have a open account with them and still play and ... shocker I see other people.

Like I said before, make an informed decision. If you are not 100% sure you want a lifetime account for a game you don't know about then... you shouldn't buy it.

Anyone that wanted to could beta STO so anyone that expected it to be any different than the "open beta" weeks needs to look at themselves for making a "mistake".

People ranting endlessly for buying a toy they didn't like seems a colossal waste of time. Wait for a trial if you're not sure.

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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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Actually what is useless is trying to stifle or censor opinion or discussion in a "forum" built for exactly that purpose.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:58PM Damn Dirty Ape said

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Leave it to Cryptic to somehow mess up good PR.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:26PM madbassman39 said

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I love Champions Online (and from the comments am part of the majority on this site) but I hate the way Cryptic is dicking everyone around. It's a shame because CO is so much fun that I am paying to play it, encouraging this kind of behavior. No matter what I think they still get money and pretend everything they do is honky dory. It's a shame really.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:46PM (Unverified) said

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Cryptic has made like 3 MMOs now and all aren't hits. It's sad.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:51PM BubleFett said

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Craptic dung thrown into the MMO market yet again.



Posted: Feb 8th 2010 2:28PM (Unverified) said

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the game is terrible

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 2:53PM EdmundDante said

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Whether you like STO or not my guess why there have been so many updates about STO in Massively is because it generates so much heat. So if I were the website -heck I'd be churning out STO posts regularly as well - until it all just died out just like STO will likely do in another year or two.

Posted: Feb 8th 2010 3:10PM (Unverified) said

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There is that and also many people here seem to mistake opinion pieces like Anit-aliased for actual news pieces.The bloggers here have self admittedly been fanboys/girls of CO and to a seemingly lesser extent STO.

As such when they are stating their opinion on such things it is their right to write about what they want and let their bias reign free. as is anyone else stating an opinion in the comments here or anywhere that free speech and discussion is allowed.

Of course that means people are allowed to call them on their bias in the comment section and even counter it with their own biased opinion until such a time the staff decide to close and censor such discussion as is their right as the runners of this site.

Also bias bias bias...coz I don't think I sued the word enough.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 3:17PM EdmundDante said

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>> The bloggers here have self admittedly been fanboys/girls of CO and
>> to a seemingly lesser extent STO.

I don't think it's that really as much as the writers here realize that Cryptic and other MMO companies are made up of real people, who have often worked on their product for a year or more, and probably would like to see their work succeed - not just for themselves, but also to see others enjoy the fruition of their work.

However - that being said, I also believe that it is often the case that those who are in charge of corporations these days - ya know, people like the CEO of Goldman Sachs who just gave himself a 9 million year end bonus - it tends to be more about the money than the people.

My opinion of course.


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