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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 4:58PM Celestian said

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I didn't know the bloggers job was to impress community managers? I thought bloggers were people who felt the need to post something that could just as easily be posted in a related forum instead to their own site and expect people to come see it...

Posted: Feb 6th 2010 12:02AM (Unverified) said

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I've been doing the Guild Wars blogging thing for over six years. (I also have a Photojournalism degree.) Why do I do it? Isn't there a conflict of interest in running a fansite and being objective?

I don't think so, not if you do it right. Bloggers are the bridge between the community and the developers. Guild Wars has millions of players. The developers cannot interact with them all. I see my roll as a mediator, to understand and report what the developers are doing, while understanding what issues are important to the players. By delivering the message with logic, passion and integrity, the end result is an improved game.

I've seen how ArenaNet has improved the game thanks to player feedback. I also think it brings the game to a whole new level. For me, running a Guild Wars fansite is often more fun than playing the game itself.

...and as for the blog/forum comment... my site has both. It also has a free blogging feature so that players can make thier own blog. ArenaNet has been very encouraging and supportive of such a feature.

I base my opinions by being a community leader. Players talk to me. They tell me what they like, what they don't. I learn about game exploits, balance issues, bugs, lore and the general mood of the community. I can focus that information into a concise message. If the developers are doing something wrong with the management of the game, I have no hesitation to point it out. If you look back at my magazines, you can clearly see that I'm one of the harshest critics of Guild Wars.

Conversely, if the players are wrong, I try to educate them or help them. Maybe they don't understand why certain game balance exists. A large percentage of my blog contains helpful information.

ArenaNet does their part too. They could have easily shut down the lines of communication, or never start in the first place. They didn't, which is why I still play the game to this day and why I still run a guild wars fansite.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2010 1:45AM (Unverified) said

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I think you can infer a lot about the industry by the author's first question; "What value do MMO bloggers have to your goals as a community relations specialist?" I realize Shawn didn't necessarily intend to support this notion, but I think it exemplifies one of the biggest disparities between gaming/MMO media and the rest of the industry.

I come from a background in print journalism, focusing on entertainment and features. Traditionally, it's all about what the PR of movie studios, record labels and other industries can offer YOU in terms of value, not the other way around. Publicists earn part of their living by getting their company's product out there in the media, whether it's in print or on the Web. Usually it's the publicist's job to convince writers of their value, not the other way around. But when I transitioned into online journalism within the video game/MMO market, I began to realize just how much the whole blogging revolution has influenced publishers' PR strategies.

At first, I didn't even know why "community managers" were insulating their company's PR and publicity departments from the media, until I realized just how inundated they are with requests from bloggers and fan-sites. I can see why CMs are a vital necessity these days, but I don't know if I like the way this industry is headed. There are so many Web-based bloggers and journalists knocking at MMO companies' doors that these publishers now have the luxury of cherry-picking from the media...Don't even get me started on examples copy writing masquerading as news and blog "journalism," or all the news media that leaves editorial content on the table with advertising/sponsorship deals...Eh; I gotta stop here, otherwise I'll keep going on a tangent for another dozen graphs...
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 5:06PM BaronJuJu said

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This seems pretty much like common sense on what to do or not do in order to have a successful relationship with a gaming company. It sounds like more often than not though that bloggers fall into the rage/rant categories. Game blogging is something I would love to get into but responsibilities at home and the job pretty much eat up any time I have to do any serious writing. I'm still hopeful though and this article provides some great tips to get started.

I'm looking forward to part 2.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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I disagree with Celestian. Not only is it a bloggers job to impress the community manager and marketing department of the company, but they should put in their best effort to support the games - that is, if the bloggers take their role seriously.

In my opinion, bloggers are similar to a fledgling video games journalist. They're learning the tricks of their field, and it can be an important step for anyone who wants to entertain the idea as a career.

Excellent tips in this article Massively! Next, it would be interesting to see an article with tips for developers from blogs and other media outlets :) There are times when both parties have things to learn, after all, at some point, everyone starts off as new.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 5:35PM Celestian said

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Most successful bloggers are not game specific.

Trying to kiss up to a community doesn't sound like my version of becoming a good "blogger" that the community will pay attention too.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 5:37PM Celestian said

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Sorry, I let me edit my last statement:

"Trying to kiss up to a community manager doesn't sound like my version of becoming a good "blogger" that the community will pay attention too."
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 6:16PM (Unverified) said

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I think you misunderstood my comment.

It's not that you want to kick up to to them. But by all means, you should work together with them to promote their game/product. What someone in the field needs to realize is that they are dependent on the developer/publisher BUT at the same time the dev/pub is dependent on them.

Also, you can still impress the C.M. without kissing up.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 6:22PM (Unverified) said

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*kiss

I have awesome spelling :/
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 7:06PM (Unverified) said

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Promoting a game is the job of the game's marketing team.

Taking on the task of promoting a game sounds like the very last thing that anyone who desires to be objective should do. If we say nice (or nasty) things about a game, it should be because those things are true, not because we have an agenda to either promote or harm a game.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 6:13PM Its Utakata stupid said

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Some of my favorite bloggers are the one that have developed their own view independent of the game or games they review and post about. They don't go out of their way to upset or insult the companies behind those, because they know that's counter productive. But they certainly don't tow the partly line either. And when the game's company screws up, they are first to point that out.

Unless of coarse the blogger's objectives are to obtain a different direction than one of objectivity. Such as they are unrepented fanboi's or think Bill Roper is the anit-Christ. They can say what they want, for all I care...accept I don't visit those blogs because I find them uninformative at best.

And no, Michael Fuchs they shouldn't...unless the objective is to create an unrepentent fanboi blog as I mentioned above.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 7:18PM (Unverified) said

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Very true, Arknor. The thing about being a journalist and working with developers though, is that in actuality you are promoting their games for them. Every time you mention their game, your readers become aware of it and will use your opinions to form their own.

By all means, if there is something wrong with the game, it is your -duty- to inform your readers about it. If you tell them the game is perfect, and its not, you lose your credibility. There's a certain way to go about doing this though, as a game journalist, otherwise you will hurt any relationship you have with the developer.

I think that the point I'm trying to get at here is, if you really hate the game, give tips on how to improve it. Constructive criticism, and not blatant "I hate you!", is much better.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 7:47PM Araxes said

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Interesting ... although I think there's an underlying assumption here that all bloggers want to be noticed by the companies they are blogging about. I can only speak for myself when I say that my blog is more like my virtual online diary; I do occasionally speculate about goings-on, and I certainly announce events and the like, but that's more the impersonal "news" side of it ... the other side is really just me speaking my mind to the ether. I do rant, on rare occasion, but I think for the most part what I post is kept equal parts construction and deconstruction. For me, it's happenstance whether or not any CRM notices my blog (and it has been noted on several occasions) -- I really don't go out of my way to network it. I have it linked in my forum signature, and I occasionally mention it when the topic is relevant, in forum postings. I guess I'm not the type that's overly comfortable going out and putting up signposts, so to say, at every turn. I prefer to let people find me through rather casual avenues.

Now, that isn't to say that when I'm noted, either by the company, or by a fellow blogger, or hybrid news blog, that I'm ungrateful. Just the opposite, I generally make it a point to thank and openly acknowledge the attention, and when possible, I try to link back to those sites if I see something interesting posted on them, down the line.

I think blogging is more of a "rub my back, I'll rub yours" sort of social networking, at least when it comes to getting one off the ground and getting noticed within the community.

Of course, the more games you blog about, then, the more likely you are to be noticed. My blog focuses on primarily just EQ2, and since EQ2 is not a behemoth in the way that WoW is, my audience is by nature much smaller. Therefore, it really comes down to my own personal desire to say something, rather than to look for gratification from a PR person.

I diverged. Oh well. ;)

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 9:05PM Salaryn said

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Interesting article. I think most of the comments fit blogs which focus on a particular game. Those would be of interest to community managers since they likely promote the game in question.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 9:40PM Softserve said

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My experience with community managers is that you don't need to "kiss their ass", per se. There's a very big difference between that and making yourself noticed. It also doesn't mean you're "in bed" with the developer and can't be trusted, either. 99% of blogs just wind up with the same shared information from publishers as it is; like it or not, you're rarely going to be considered over Massively.

I had a LOTRO blog and I loved the game, but I didn't shy away from criticism, plain old bitching or comparing to games I thought did certain things better. I've noticed that's true of other LOTRO and MMORPG blogs as well. The same was true when I worked in a Persona/Shin Megami Tensei site.

I've not directly worked with Patience much, but she always came across nice. Same think with Sapience, who works alongside her. Nice group of people, but I never got this feeling of having to bow to them or outright impress them (beyond having GOOD content and being able to market yourself) whatsoever.

Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:20PM (Unverified) said

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Good insight. More please ;)

Posted: Feb 5th 2010 11:00AM shipwreck said

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Yeah yeah, interesting stuff.

Read my blog! http://freebooterkommand.blogspot.com

:P

Posted: Feb 9th 2010 1:14PM (Unverified) said

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Just to let you know, I went and checked the blog, and it's interesting. I think it just needs a little something to keep the audience coming back.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2010 8:36PM Bigwig said

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well there's a few insights anyway. will be reading part 2.

Posted: Feb 5th 2010 5:34PM pcgneurotic said

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What interests me, is that 8 of the 9 CMs here are women.

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