i sorry but i played mmo for years the the so called grind in most games these days is so small. in everquest you have to kill stuff for days to get a lvl sometimes now the average game you can get a lvl easly for the first 30-40 and after that you get one at least once a day if you put you mind to it for a few hours. i find theres realy very little grind these days. in the old days grind was used more so that you grind to make it a little easyer to quest the higher lvl quest. now it used loosly like grinding to get resourses. grind to get more gold. grind seem more optional these days rather then not having any chose but to grind to lvl or get anywere.