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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 8:34AM (Unverified) said

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WOW they extended it by a full day!!!! Whoooooooo those are some crazy people at cryptic. Another day to realise it's still rubbish.

I uninstalled this yesterday, honesly it is such a waste of an IP. It;s release menas there will not be any decent ST game out for years and it's not even an RPG. MMO, just about but not a RPG.

I'm not trolling here I swear but STO is terrible. :(

Posted: Jan 25th 2010 10:20AM (Unverified) said

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Wait, it's rubbish??
Well damn, I guess I'll cancel my preorder and lifetime sub because someone I don't know doesn't like it.
So it's not the best game ever produced. I don't care. I'm having fun in an MMO for once.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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LOL, sensitive eh?

Hey if you're loving it then that's cool with me. I just gave MY opinion which just to under-line it is that STO is easily the worst MMORPG ever for all the reasons I have mentioned already.

STO is a POS and NOT an RPG and hardly an MMO.

I feel sorry for you for loving it. :(
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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Dude, STFU. The game isn't rubbish. It has a lot of wonderful qualities.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 4:35PM ultimateq said

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I agree, the game is far from "rubbish". It's not ground breaking, it should be, but it's not. All I really wanted was for some bridge commander style space combat. If it had that I would be all over this game, but since it doesn't, I think I'll sit it out for a few months.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:02AM Snichy said

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Only a matter of time before the usual suspects post off-topic comments about how they hate this game and listing all its failures.

Im counting the days before release and these people move onto another game to moan about, leaving us fans to enjoy it and give constructive criticism to Crypic to really improve the game.

Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:22AM pcgneurotic said

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My thoughts exactly.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:22AM dudemanjac said

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That may be true on the forums, but the ppl around here won't quit. They still pop up when there are stories about CO. I suppose it's their right, I just don't understand the need.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:37AM (Unverified) said

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Only a matter of time before the usual suspects post off-topic comments about how they love this game and proceed to bitch about how other people dare disagree with them.

Oh wait...too late.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:36AM MrGutts said

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Wellllll I just can have a day go by without flaming the crap out of Cryptic or Jack E. I know his nose is here with STO behind the scenes.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:43AM i2hellfire said

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well, to be completely fair, the game in its current incarnation is a tad dull. and it kills me to type that. i want it to succeed, really. but the missions are too repetitive and similar. the current overwhelming joy i have in the beta right now is leveling to get the next tier ship.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 11:39AM (Unverified) said

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"Im counting the days before release and these people move onto another game to moan about, leaving us fans to enjoy it and give constructive criticism to Crypic to really improve the game."

You speak the truth my friend!!!
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:41AM (Unverified) said

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I am usual suspect? Really? I was just giving my honest opinion on was is at best a poor game. Ther eis no RPG to this game, the only place you can meet other players not in an instance of 50 people or less is at the Sol base. No crafting. Only one choice of career (Captain). Only kill and collect missions, no diplomacy.

Only a matter of time before the usual suspects come out and defend this terrible mmo...

Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:50AM Snichy said

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Just because the post is underneath yours, doesnt mean it relates to your comment. Thats what the "reply" button is for!
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 9:54AM (Unverified) said

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Oh whatever... enjoy your game. :)
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 10:33AM (Unverified) said

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I haven't played the beta, so this isn't a critique for or against the game itself, but I'm wondering:
From what I understand you're not happy with a lack of RPG-style elements that are found in most MMORPG's in STO. However, did they (Cryptic) ever claim this was an RPG or is this just the "Star Trek MMO"? Is it meant to simply be a persistent world for being your own, customizable spaceship captain in a Star Trek themed universe with your friends?

I guess I'm wondering if there is room for a non-shooter or strategy PC game that has online multiplayer but doesn't have to have every "standard feature" of an MMORPG to succeed somehow. If the game tries that and suffers for it then I guess not.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 10:57AM dudemanjac said

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Sure. I'll bite.

The crafting does stink. No one will argue that.

Missions are just as repetitive in this game as any other mmo. I still have yet to have someone tell me the game where these amazing genre breaking missions exist. The packaging is a little different from this game to that, but it's all the same.

Every once in a while there will be a missions wit ha humorous story. There are also missions that don't involve fighting. At least one out of every patrol mission won't require a shot to be fired. I settled a dispute between two brother involving stolen goods. I guess that's as much diplomacy as you're gonna get but i only hit lvl 13.

I don't know what you mean by there being no rpg. You can meet all the ppl in your zone at once. Can you see them all at once? No, but you can talk to them. You can meet them in missions or change your instance. You can roleplay if you choose to. I was having quite a bt of fun with that when I let myslf.

Yes you can only strive for being a captain, but that was all they ever promised, I do believe one piece of promo stated just that: the chance to captain a space vessel. If you want to be the guy who turns the knobs in engineering or a doctor who treats runny nose on a warship, sorry, this isn't your game. Cruisers, escorts, and sciece vessels play different. I don't know if they become even more different at higher lvls, but they are.

I like it. I'll buy it. I know I'm not alone. And I know you are not alone. One game can't please everyone. The game could have everything you want, and then there would be a whole different group screaming that it sucks. Such is life.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 11:38AM Aquaryon said

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@ dudemanjac

I vould have not said it better dude. I hope I see you space bud.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 12:29PM Wensbane said

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"Missions are just as repetitive in this game as any other mmo."

That's the problem and that's what separates the great game developers from the average. Because we all know that the great ones won't just settle for what works, they always want more.

Star Trek is a cult phenomenon, with a huge legion of fans behind it (admittedly, I am NOT one of them), it deserves more than a basic presentation of the same old boring mechanics that have been with us for the past ten years, or more.

Also, it deserves a game that is faithful to the message that Gene Roddenberry was trying to convey. Because this was a man who actually cared about the future of mankind. A rare example.

Cryptic's Star Trek Online makes a mockery of Strak Trek and the moral values it instilled on several generations of dedicated viewers. It's one of the most shallow space shooters I've EVER come upon!

Gameplay Bugs? Technical issues? UI glitches? Server problems? Yes, they are all present in great numbers, but those can be fixed.
The core mechanics of the game, however, will never change significantly. And that is exactly why I will never play STO again.

"Troll" or not, that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2010 1:07PM dudemanjac said

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@Wensbane

So your problem isn't that it's missions are the same as everyone elses, but that it didn't rise to some preconceived height? That's cool. I can actually understand that. Maybe I've just been a little jaded and I never really expected more from an mmo than missions like this. I read the missions and try to enjoy what story is there. I getthe feeling there is an over arching story and some of the missions do connect, but to be honest most of the time I've been more concerned with testing mechanics, looking for bugs and ignoring a lot of the story. When I actually by it, I will be paying closer attention.

I do plan on being one of those ppl on the boards giving feedback about missions trying to get more than the standard kill quests. I guess I just never bought into the the missions being boring because, I don't see a diff here than anywhere else, and you are the first person to say anything about why they expected more. No one has pointed to better.

I think another reason I don't have problem with the missions, is because I LOVE the space combat. I like taking breaks from that to do occasional pvp. You'll never hear me defend the ground combat past that it's better than the first time I tried it.

I don't know if this setting is something Roddenbery would have approved of. What was the last project he actually had a hand in, though? I think his ideals were abandoned a long time ago. Can someone tell me how exploration could be better? There is a small movement it looks like on the forum to get more interaction on the planets (animals, npcs). But as it is, I despise being on the ground so much, I hardly care.
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