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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 4:15PM GenericPerson said

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Yes and they do. Look at some of the posts here, I can't imagine what other forums breed when it comes to conversing about this topic. I'm just glad that not everyone here acts like some of the forums I've read *cough*mmorpg.com*cough*
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 3:01PM (Unverified) said

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@Como
Search engines only display information in search results that they have gathered. The issue you bring up has to do with Personally Identifiable Information (PII), while your Warcraft toon on the Armory does not reveal the users real name, location, or any real life information unless you called your Night Elf Hunter TheRealComoJohnson, and your real name is Como Johnson...

And for your information, search engines already reveal your information to the public if you have left it in on a publicly accessible place on the internet.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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Stalking by family or employer is not a valid concern, there are better ways for these who can physically access the computer in your absence. And for any your activity, not limited for a single character in a single game.

Remote RL stalkers benefit much more by the misfeature. Knowing when you stopped to log in may hint about your vacations, etc.

More important, it's a invaluable asset for account machinations. Monitoring your schedule provides knowledge of best attack timing, when it's likely to remain undetected by for the longest period. E.g. a few minutes after you logout on midnight if you only play at evening.

Providing information about your RL habits and game times is the valuable thing. Which boss you killed or sword acquired worth little. WoW is not EVE, where such tactical information would grant an advantage.

Simply changing from realtime updates to daily aggregates in set time would reduce a lot of problems.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 3:21PM dudes said

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I quit my sub this week. Off to LotRO before big brother goes even more overboard.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 10:33PM Eamil said

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Paranoia paranioa everybody's coming to get me.

I don't have a problem with people asking for an opt out but people like you are just plain silly.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 3:43PM ultimateq said

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Top gear IS awesome. I won't lie.

Oh yeah... interesting article. =)

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 4:25PM (Unverified) said

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LOTRO's version of this lets you see all of a character's current gear and what kinship you're in, at a minimum. You can link your characters to your forum account name, if you want people to know who all of your alts are. You can also allow people to see logs of quests and deeds you've completed, and your skirmish activity. All of it is date stamped, but not time stamped.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 3:56PM eNTi said

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i'm just waiting for the first people to get fired over lying to their boss being at work while in reality they've fished their 1000th fish.

not that the boss didn't have the right to fire you over this, but neither did blizzard have the right to tell on you. it's called ethics.

also, i think you could derive neat behavioural patterns from an online game as well as from your browsing habits.

this is just the next step from those sick idiot bastards, that twitter the world, that they've just taken another piss. who cares? i certainly don't, but i start to care, if you twitter the world that i just did.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 10:35PM Eamil said

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Y'know what?

My boss doesn't know my WoW character's name. And she never will.

Not that I have the kind of job where I can play from work, but the point stands: Are you REALLY going to tell your boss your MMO characters' names?
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 4:00PM Phegan said

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It's an MMO, who cares. Oh no, someone knows when I looted a new item, or when I completed an achievement. Seriously...It is an invasion of privacy to your avatar maybe, but to the actual person, no, no it isn't.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 6:42PM (Unverified) said

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I agree that the power should be in the players hands when it comes to being able to choose how private they would like to keep things. Sera I'm glad to see that someone can see both sides of the coin objectively.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 4:57PM swarmofcats said

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NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU DO IN A VIDEOGAME, LOSERS! SO GET OVER IT!

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 9:07PM mode7overworld said

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Dunno why this is voted down. It's true.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 5:14PM (Unverified) said

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As usual, people are over reacting to stuff that is irrelevant for 99.99% of the population.

Of course, I still think being included in this sort of thing should be up to the player.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 5:55PM (Unverified) said

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the real question is....

Where did you go between the dates of May 31'st to Sept 18th?

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 9:09PM Sunaris said

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i don't have anything to hide but my shame for playing games so long....would like to see an opt-out feature. I'm not comfortable with people being able to see what i'm doing at all hours i'm playing. But then again i quit wow long ago, so it doesn't matter i guess..lol.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 6:43PM (Unverified) said

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Opt-outs and adjustable privacy settings seem to be the prudent course of action. This is essentially a Facebook feed, so there's little reason the level of control should be as such.

If you find true mental comfort in the anonymity of the Internet and find this disturbing, then yeah, you have a legitimate beef. The tinfoil hat part, on the other hand, is total bunk. If you're so worried about what you do on the Internet, then don't go on the Internet. Just about anything can be recovered, so if someone really wants your info, you're SOL.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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I think I'm confused by this article, and the point it makes remains frothy at best. You're for it, then against it, then say whatever, just let them opt out?

I guess my real issue is that you missed the point of the anti-rss feed fuss. I don't know if their argument is about "stalkers" in the sense that you think it is. Your idea of a stalker is a single person tracking another person (or perhaps several people). But this is a naive way to think about stalking (and admittedly if this is the anti-rss feed argument, then I think they're just making noise). I mean for god's sake, this is MASSIVELY isn't it? How could you have missed this? We're talking about stalking on a massive scale. Code that runs 24/7 mining information from the armory. There is information to be found in large amounts of data, and it's very possible that that information is worth money to the right people.

It's entirely conceivable that I could track every in game WoW character this way. Everyone has a record. And it's also conceivable that this information could lead to your identification out of game. So no, it's not JUST a game. What a weird thing to hear coming from somebody WHO IS EMPLOYED TO WRITE ABOUT GAMES. These games are online, and can connect you (in real life) to you in game. That means that the game can affect your life. And to a majority of players, it won't mean squat for blizzard to implement this system. But they've released this information in a mandatory feature, which should worry you, even if you're not the one hiding things.

Honestly though, I don't really give a shit. Just thought I'd play devil's advocate.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 9:01PM Joystiq Login Bugs SUCK said

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"So what's my take on it? Well, I'm glad you asked. Here at Anti-Aliased, I've got nothing to hide."

So Seraphina, What is your RSS feed URL? I would love to see how you are progressing and if you actually speak with authority here.

My worry? Another wankerish addon or webpage like gearscore that will scrape your feed and work out if "computer says no!" on you entering that dungeon. There are already too many people who pay recount, gearscore and linked achievements too much credence.

You didn't address that in your article I notice?

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 10:27PM Seraphina Brennan said

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Unfortunately for you I'm one of the easiest people to contact on the internet, Jay.

You can look up Sephare on Ravenholdy on the World of Warcraft armory. She's pictured here in the images you see above. I don't play anymore, but you're welcome to add her.

Twitter is @sera_brennan. Follow me! Come on aboard and get my updates!

You can e-mail me easily at sera@massively.com. Come on over and talk to me!

EverQuest II? Well, you'll learn that I'm Seccia Ravenloft on the Lucan d'Lere server. You'll be able to meet me every week once my new column is up and running.

I sacrifice much of my privacy to talk to gamers everyday. Why? Because I love my job.
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