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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:18PM Randomessa said

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It's going to be hard to justify the expense (2 accounts) given that my last lifetime sub hasn't paid off for me in LOTRO. Still, it's sooo tempting.....

Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:23PM dudemanjac said

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I love this game so far and I don't have any regrets from buying CO membership really, but I don't think I'm doing that this time. And I'm enjoying this game more than the other. I was really hoping for some kind of deal for those who have lifetime sub. If they had left it at $200 I might have considered it. My wife says I should think a little harder before I say no.

I'm really enjoying making new alien faces everytime I've had to restart so I really have little desire to actually be borg unless that comes with special abilities. I haven't even found out what Borg BO does.

Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:56PM nathanb said

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i haven't even found out what Borg BO does.

it's a faint electrical burn smell.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:48PM tk421242 said

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Really, buying a lifetime subscription for a product that has not been released just seems unwise to me. Of course, that is just my opinion. After the mess that was made with the Champions Online patch right before launch that really changed the gameplay I have little confidence in Cryptic.

I think the aspect of this deal that bothers me most is that the release is Feb 2, and the offer is only good till day before launch? It just sends to me the message that they want to sell as many life subs as they can before release. If that is the case, what is the problem. Granted people can get into beta and see the game, but like I said, I played CO beta and the game sure was different when I went back on the live server after release.

I am not saying Cryptic made a bad game or its a scam, I just get this impression from the offer that they feel they have to get as much out of the product right away at launch.

One question, with LOTRO, was that lifetime sub offered before launch? If my memory is correct it was offered after launch, but I can not recall 100%.



Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:57PM CCon99 said

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LotRO's lifetime sub was offered for a limited time before the game launched, you had the option of going with the lifetime sub or the $9.99 per month subscription. After launch the deal was around for 30 days I believe.

They made the deals available again on the anniversary of the game's launch.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:59PM phobic99 said

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I believe LOTRO's lifetime sub was available before launch for $199 (which was the Founder's program). It's now $299 for a lifetime sub.

Out of all the MMOs that have offered a lifetime sub, I'd say LOTRO is the most successful.

Other lifetime subs:

Hellgate London
Champion's Online
and now Star Trek Online
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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 11:12PM (Unverified) said

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Biophazer242: "I am not saying Cryptic made a bad game or its a scam..."



Actually, you can say just that. The Beta testing of this game was never extensive and was a complete joke. End-game content (anything post Commander Rank) wasn't even touched by Beta testers until the last weekend of Beta and that's because they used leveling NPCs. Even then the players complained about broken quests, complete unbalance, and a lack of serious game direction. Still to this date we have no clue what the real Admiral end-game is like and what's even there, if anything at all.

Overall, the game wasn't Beta tested by the players much at all. 2 times a week for a couple of hours each (2 hours each for the 1st month, 3 hours each for the 2nd month, and finally about 4-5 hours each for the last month and a full-server weekend near the holidays). They only added in key features at the very end in the past few weeks, and there are alot of issues with these features that should have been hammered out a long while ago.

In total, Cryptic has been developing this game for a maximum of 2 years (Perpetual sold IP rights sometime after Januar 2008) and has only had it Beta tested for small hour sessions over a period of 3 months (the total hours together can add up to less than 2 weeks). -Can anyone honestly sit there and say that the game quality is worth putting down $290 ($240+$50) to have a lifetime subscription to? I don't think so.

P.S. Here's a quote from the page:

"We make no explicit or implicit warranties on the service period of the game."

It's like saying right there that they think/know that the game might not last after the 17 months (1 year, 5 months) that the subscription equals in bare minimum.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 11:24PM (Unverified) said

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"Other lifetime subs:

Hellgate London
Champion's Online
and now Star Trek Online"

I feel sorry for all the people who bought lifetime subs for Hellgate London. Flagship Studios went under before the price of the sub was offset by the number of months they got subscriber benefits for.

And given that Bill Roper now works for Cryptic there is no way I would risk buying a lifetime in sub in any of their games -- or buy any of their games at all, I still have a HGL disk that only ever made a good coaster (thankfully I never got the lifetime sub).
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:20AM Suplyndmnd said

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In North America, players who pre-ordered the game were offered a special founder's offer, a lifetime subscription for $199 or reduced cost of $9.99 per month. Standard monthly fee is $14.99 with three, six, twelve month, and lifetime discounts available. European players had a similar program from Codemasters. A Holiday subscription was available in December of 07 and January of 08 for $9.99/month for a 3 month commitment. A one year anniversary addition includes a $9.99/month subscription or a $199.99 Lifetime subscription, which was again offered during the lead up to the release of Mines of Moria.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:53PM shinkie said

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I have a LS for CO, still play it but I don't really regret it. Although be warned, I still had to buy the retail game off Steam to activate my LS after the beta period expired. Not sure if it will be the same kinda thing here.

Posted: Jan 18th 2010 3:14PM HiGHPLAiNS said

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So far the game isn't that bad at all,because I really didn't get caught up in the hype since I have been occupied with FE.

To me, STO seems like it may be a guilty pleasure of a mmo to me.

Posted: Jan 14th 2010 10:58PM Zantom said

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I tried to get my Lifetime and it said there was an error. So like a dimwit I try again. Now my bank shows two charges and my account doesn't have the Lifetime sub credited :(

I guess I will get a taste firsthand of Cryptic support tomorrow morning.

Posted: Jan 14th 2010 11:07PM beskar said

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If you thought about this critically, you'd also see theyre selling 12 month subs at $120 whereas 12 months at $15 is $180. So my money's on $15/month. Jesus, and you people think you're journalists. It's scary.

Posted: Jan 14th 2010 11:32PM CCon99 said

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Wow, only 2 character slots per standard subscription is being offered now. (3 if you unlock Klingon) They're really getting out of hand with the price gouging now.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:02AM Anatidae said

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Soon it will be: Oh, you want to use the color blue? That will be $4.99
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:06AM dudemanjac said

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Wait. Where are you reading that? I see that the lifetime offer 2 addition character slots. Have they actually announced that you only get 2 slots if you buy the game?
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:23AM Lionhearted said

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You're incorrect. The BETA has 2 character slots per account (then the Klingon slot). That does *not* mean the game itself will only have 2 character slots. I could see being afraid that they'll only have two character slots, but you're just incorrect to say that's how it'll be. Quite frankly, I doubt it. There would be people screaming bloody murder if that's all they allowed. I'd be surprised if there were less than 6 (or more than that, to be frank).
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:57AM CCon99 said

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@Ryan

No YOU'RE incorrect, Rekhan announced it on the forums tonight and confirmed that 2 character slots (a third if you unlock Klingon) were all you get with a standard subscription. I wasn't making this up, it's been dev confirmed. Check the STO forum Dev Tracker.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:20AM dudemanjac said

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Ok. Now I'm on the gouge bus.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=1436313&postcount=64

And I will not be getting a lifetime sub. Im still getting it, And I'll play my Fed and my Orion. But I'm not paying even the one year if that's the way they want to play it. I tend to be a bit of an altoholic. I definitely won't be doing that here. And I certainly won't be buying character slots in a cash shop.

I'm also not thrilled about this borg being so powerful. I hope with all these extras, they don't get to pick skills at the start like everyone else.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 8:12AM Damn Dirty Ape said

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Borg doesn't seem that powerful really. The nanite regen is nice and unique, but I believe you can take the 'efficient' power with a unique race
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