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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:23PM Serious Table said

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Along with the UI, it should be noted that by pressing ESC, then selecting "Rearrange HUD", you can do just that. Shift it around until it's just how YOU like it. I rather like that feature, honestly.

Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:23PM Lethality said

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Great tips man. Hopefully this will be downloaded when I get home...

Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:24PM (Unverified) said

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"Well, there really isn't any, as the requirement for leveling up is attaining a set amount of skill points instead. You earn skill points primarily via PvE and PvP missions and kills."

Not to sound like a jerk, but isn't this how XP works? I do something, get points and after a certain amount of points I have advanced. Is this really something different, or just XP by a new name?

Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:30PM (Unverified) said

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Fair point.

However, the skill points you earn are spent on skills. So, it's a two-fold system. It'd be like getting rid of experience in WoW and leveling purely based on your talent points. It seems to confuse a lot of new players, so I made sure to mention it.

I'll edit that section so that this makes more sense. Sorry for the confusion.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 11:25PM Firebreak said

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This is different in the sense that you can spend the skill points as you level instead of geting a new ablity at the end of the level you are skilling up in the middle of the level as well.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:31PM (Unverified) said

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Its similar but works differently. You get skill points, you spend them to increase your skills which grant you passive bonuses, and when you've SPENT enough of them, you increase in grade (which are basically levels) and rank (every ten levels). Once you increase in rank you get access to new ships and missions and new abilities and the option to promote your officers to new ranks as well.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:33PM (Unverified) said

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Ok, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 10:41PM RogueJedi86 said

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Would I be that far off in saying it's a bit like SWG's original profession system? The " It'd be like getting rid of experience in WoW and leveling purely based on your talent points." part sounds just like SWG's pre-NGE system.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:30PM (Unverified) said

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Pretty much the same. You get attribute points that you must spend on skills. If you dont spend them, you never level up though. They only count toward your level if spent. But yes, to say it's not conventional xp is pretty silly.

Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:35PM Wensbane said

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Tip 1: Do not attempt to play this game with a Nvidia GPU.

Tip 2: Do not attempt to play this game with Realtek HD Audio.

Tip 3: Do not attempt to play this game with recent drivers of any kind.

Tip 4: Do not attempt to play this game with a 64-bit OS.

Seriously though, the game is a lot of fun. Space combat is exactly what I predicted it would be: PotBS with a y-axis. Which is great. The character creation process is amazing and customization (via skills, equipment, NPCs, etc.) is incredibly deep.

However, all of the performance issues that plagued Champions Online are still present. No audio on Realtek Audio devices without using unstable tweaks, performance issues with recent Nvidia GPU drivers, etc. They are ALL still there.
I know it's only in Open Beta, but still... these problems have been around for a while. They should be looooong gone by now. Hope they fix them all before release (one can dream), because the game really is a blast.

Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:43PM (Unverified) said

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Funny, I'm playing with an nvidia GPU, Windows 7 64-Bit, and Realtek Audio Headphones... And yet, it runs perfectly.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:42PM (Unverified) said

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I'm playing it with all those things as well. Have you tried updating all your drivers? I know it sounds silly, but PC games have a way of being annoying just because your onboard LAN or sound driver is too old.

If that doesn't solve it, the terrible "reinstall" sometimes does. I make no guarantees on that one, though.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:59PM dudemanjac said

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Why is it I never run into these issues? What am I doing different from everyone else?

1) Running an Nvidia 9800

2)I'll have to double check, but I'm sure that's what I'm running to. I have on board audio. But to be honest, that may have been my last motherboard.

3)I'll check that too, but I think last time I updated drivers was a month or so ago.

4) I've been runnign 64 bit Windows 7 for months with no issues on this or CO.

I'm scared to update now though. When I get home, I'll tell you what version drivers I have and then you can try those and see if it helps you.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:53PM Wensbane said

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I play fine with headphones as well. It's when I change my sound playback to Realtek HD Audio Output that the problems begin. I had this very same problem in CO and I was forced to play with headphones all the time.

But just in case you think I'm making all of this up... go check the forums. Let THAT speak for itself.

Go check the 10 page thread about Nvidia GPU stuttering in ground combat. People with i7s and GTXs 295 running small battles at 10 FPS.

Or the 6 page thread about problems with recent Nvidia drivers (acknowledged by the Devs, by the way), being that the ONLY official fix is to roll back to a set of drivers so old, that it would give me problems with every other game I have installed.

Or the 3 page thread about problems with Realtek HD Audio Devices (also acknowleged by the Devs). Being that the only solution is to use the -ignorex64 check, which makes your game somewhat unstable (this "fix" also existed in CO, by the way, I tried it).

Or the 19484729 threads about problems with 64-bit Operative Systems and.

Seriously... just because you don't have a problem, doesn't mean that literally hundreds of people aren't unable to play due to gamebreak technical issues. Because we are. Even if we like the game (when we can get it to run properly, that is)...
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 4:56PM Wensbane said

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I appreciate the suggestion Kyle, but updating your drivers is (according to the Devs themselves) precisely THE LAST thing you should do. Mine were the latest available, obviously, as I update my drivers regularly and always try to keep my PC as optimized as possible.

My precious... xD
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 5:28PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not doubting you, in any way. Trust me, I know the forum members have well-documented problems with the such. (I'm 1000_Tons_of_Awesome, member since April '09.) But, it's just weird that I've never ran into any of these problems.

Which leads me to believe that either A) I'm just super lucky, or B) these problems are not as wide-spread as some people think. I'm inclined to believe it is the latter, but who knows?
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Posted: Jan 16th 2010 10:58PM (Unverified) said

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Im running all of those things, no wonder I have like 3 fps.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 5:54PM Wulf said

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Sorry, but just because you're in good company with the vast majority who are not technically savvy, doesn't mean the issue is Cryptic's.

I'm running a Core i7
I have 2x 295GTXs
I'm running RealTek audio to z-5500's
I'm on Windows 7 64...

Now, before you whine about it being one setup, I'll inform you that my laptop also has all of the above, save for a 260mGTX.

My wife's machine is running Vista Ultimate 64 and dual 9800GTX's.

Her laptop is running Windows 7 64 and an 8600mGT. All of them have RealTek audio and all of them have the most recent drivers. We don't have a single issue with the program after yesterday's patch, which just cleared up server latency.

So, tell me again how it's Cryptic's fault?
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 5:58PM Wulf said

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...oh, and the two desktops are self-crafted units, one laptop is ASUS, the other is Alienware...

So, there are no common points in any of the 4 systems, beyond those you mentioned.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2010 6:48PM Wensbane said

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Look Wulf, I've been assembling and maintaining my own PCs for at least 15 years (before mainstream MMOs even existed) and I've never encountered so many technical problems in a single game.

Maybe I'm just out of luck (had to happen sooner or later) or maybe it's all my fault for staying with on-board audio, when I can get a Creative X-Fi for 50€. But none of that is important as long as these problems get fixed! And for that to happen, I have to report and complain.

Keep in mind, that I'm not some vague troll on a mission to bring down Cryptic. I have very genuine, very specific concerns. I know I probably won't get any sympathy from you, but it's a shame that these problems are keeping me from playing a game I actually like.

Most of the members here know that I have strongly defended Cryptic (as well as other developers) in the past, because I know how some people are simply too quick to judge, even without evidence. But I have no problem warning others about the current technical issues of this game, especially since many of these issues are still present in Champions Online!

In fact, if you check the official "Tech issues and answers" sticky on the STO support forums, you will quickly see that the problems I've mentioned are very much real, and that most of them, are NOT user-generated.

So judge me all you want, but the fact remains... I install dozens of games on my PC every year and I almost never encounter gamebreaking issues.
Minor fixes, like tweaking the BASEengine.ini file to get better sound in Mass Effect are one thing... but these are far more serious than that, and completely out of my control.
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