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Posted: Jan 11th 2010 5:17PM (Unverified) said

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Wow has destroyed the mmo community and the developers making the games. This is upsetting.

Posted: Jan 11th 2010 9:44PM karnisov said

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no, the bar is just alot higher now. not necessarily a bad thing. means you need to put out a good product to profit.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2010 6:50PM Graill440 said

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First, some quality WOW bashing to limber up the fingers before discussing Algonon.

Rubbish, WOW hasnt done anything to anyone other than create voiceful gremlins, for the game and against it, i am one of the gremlins against it and the french company that runs it with an iron fist.

There isnt a game out there that has copied WOW in anyway, graphics or mechanics wise. What other games are doing are using the same things available to all MMO makers that have been around for over twenty years, Wow was not the first to dip into the resource pool of ideas and implement them and they wont be the last. And we can all assume the same lousy trend will continue for some time.

Let me be clear, i dislike wow so much i could use the term hate. The graphics, mechanics and the social experience of MMO's were around long before wow showed up and will be when wow is rolling around in its own filth, not that is isnt doing so now.

The french created a mechanic that was popular with another company they had a stake in, AOL. Make it simple to play, automate it, make pretty colors, associate them with numeric symbols and you have the AOL of games, WOW. Simple things for simple minds, very smart frenchies.

People on average will not get rid of things they have invested time in or try to attempt something more difficult, the mechanics of WOW help this along, easy wins over new. Now many more MMO's later folks see things like Algonon and Allods and cry, "they are copying WOW". Algonon has similarities, leveling, trying to attain a piece of gear at a time in mindless raid grinding (allods too) but graphically and playwise they differ to much to quantify the statement "its just like wow".

Algonon does not interest me, the graphics are blocky and very dated as is combat, you still level in the game, you grind quests and have to run through multiple times to get gear...........omg, just like wow!!!!!

Posted: Jan 11th 2010 7:21PM WitchDrAsh said

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Wasn't WoW created by Blizzard? A company based founded and based in the US, yes they are now owned by Vivendi, said French company but this is a little later on, and after WoW's release date. (Merger was 2007), previous to that Blizzard was owned by Activision, based in Santa Monica CA, also not in France.

If you're going to go on a rant please at least make sure you get the facts somewhere near reality.

WoW is ultimately the iPod of MMOs, nothing new or particularly innovating, but everything polished to a blinding sheen and done very well. To dumb it down to say simple things for simple people is to be totally blinded to the reality of Blizzard's creation, they made it accessible, but complex at the later stages, some of the boss fights are hard to complete without excellent knowledge of your class and proper coordination, you can't just face roll through the tougher raids, conversely getting the maximum level is just a grind, skill makes it quicker. The progression is quick enough to prevent a lot of people getting bored. WoW really doesn't get to where it is by being a crap game for morons, or people who don't like depth, it gets there by doing what it does well, but keeping the fundamentals easy to understand and making the game accessible, especially at early stages.

I don't like the fact that it's made expectations from MMOs unrealistic, that everything has to be a WoW beater, someday WoW will fade and something else will come along, until then accept the fact that WoW is the bench mark, and if you personally dislike it there is plenty of choice out there, but of course they're all "failed" mmos, because instead of millions of subscribers they have 100ks.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2010 9:02PM (Unverified) said

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You got that wrong Ash. Vivendi Universal was Blizzards backer and then they merged with Activision. Not sure why this other guy its ranting about them. My is guess he used to work for Blizz and got canned maybe. Seems pretty bitter for someone that just played the game.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2010 10:15PM (Unverified) said

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I think this article takes "looking at the cup half full" to a whole other level, to the point of ridiculous. Did the Alganon staff pay for this article?

Posted: Jan 11th 2010 11:04PM karnisov said

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i take most of the articles on here with a big grain of salt.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2010 1:00AM remover said

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No matter how frustrated I became with the WoW approach to a lot of MMO mechanics, gameplay and otherwise,
Blizzard will forever be the company that brought a meaningful game to Mac OS X.

I realize most avid PC gamers just LOVE to bash macs, but regardless of where you stand, there is a large market of mac users who love games and don't have a lot of choices. Blizzard seemlessly launches products that run on both platforms out of the box and it brings them business and loyalty.

I'd wager this has a lot more to do with it's success than people think, and it's one area where a lot of the up-and-coming games would gain a lot of traction.

Posted: Jan 12th 2010 4:33AM Dread said

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Is Massively now contracting out to Paid for Advertorials?

I was disappointing the first time this author shilled for Alganon a few weeks ago and mentioned it at the time but this is just plain blatant and insulting. I thought Massively was all about honest articles about MMO's by those passionate about the industry and playing the games? Thats why I come here daily to see whats being discussed. I don't come here to read advertorials not even trying to disguise themselves as opinion or review pieces.

Can Massively please, from now on, place a prominent banner across the top of shill articles like this one warning that this article is a 'Paid for Comment Advertorial' rather than an actual opinion piece or review.

It wouldn't be so bad if the game in question wasn't such a fraudulent copy of existing IP's and their innovative systems.

Posted: Jan 12th 2010 6:10AM Pingles said

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Alganon has subscribers. SOME people like this game.

The author is one of them.

Enough with all of the accusations.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2010 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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How is this a positive review?

The author talks about the game trying to one up WoW and failing, talks about bugs, uses language like:

"nothing that jumps out as being refreshingly original"
"it's not a spectacular game at this point"
"it doesn't have the strengths it should have front-and-center"
"weaker than it should be"

So you think the developer would pay for that? Reading comprehension FTW!
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Posted: Jan 12th 2010 6:28AM (Unverified) said

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OMG someone did not slag something off. They must be being paid.

Posted: Jan 12th 2010 8:25AM wufiavelli said

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Seems the main thing with this is that it is a bad rip off of wow. not to mention that fact it is a very close ripoff of wow. lotro, allod, and countless others games also ripped wow off and they are fine. For one they do offer something a tad different weather it be setting or features, for a second those are both fun games.

Also being a wow rip off is not really the big of a deal. Its not like wow was that big of an innovator to begin with. They basically just ripped off, polished and streamlined most of their features from other games. Hell even the UI, which they are credit with creating, was actually first used in AC2.

In the end i really do not see a niche for this game.

Posted: Jan 12th 2010 9:54AM Seffrid said

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Strange way of presenting a review in my opinion. How it comes across to me is that the main reviewer penned an unbelievably rose-tinted review that the management knew wouldn't stand examination by those here who have been commenting adversely on the game and so they added in a few qualifying comments of their own by way of an attempted balancing exercise.

A more honest and unbiased review in the first place would have done the trick rather better in my view!

Posted: Jan 12th 2010 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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Do you realize that this "not a bad game by any means" is averaging around 30-50 people per server at prime time? 30-50!!!!!!! Do you think even an average game would have those sort of numbers. Even the Alganon forums are filled with frustrated posts from even the most heartfelt fanbois. This "article" is a joke if it paints any other picture than the honest truth about how terrible this game is.

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