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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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My "guess" is that TOR will launch without a space aspect to the gameplay.

SWG did the same thing, and released space later. I hope I'm wrong.

I think space is a major aspect of the Star Wars universe, and if TOR doesn't have it at launch, that could be a big deal to many.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 8:15PM (Unverified) said

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True that my friend. Hopefully we will see some space content eventually. That's one of the things that I miss about SWG. Love to fly around in my ship when I was bored. Space combat is essential in a Star Wars game. If it wasn't, it would be called "Wars". Lets not forget most of the original Star Wars game back in the day were space simulation, with the X-Wing and TIE series of video games. This game still has potential for a lot more. Maybe it will be a surprise at launch, or maybe for later.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2009 5:21PM (Unverified) said

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Speaking of TIE Fighter, did you know the TIE Defender is now available in LEGO?

Yeah, space combat would be nice. Just keep those EVE designers away from it, please.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 3:30PM Eamil said

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"Who knows, maybe there'll be more bugs than an average MMO launch. Perhaps the game will be intoxicatingly delightful to play, except when it freezes or crashes. People would put up with that, right? Well, no they wouldn't, actually. A minor amount of that and usually everything can be managed, but if a game has these kinds of issues the "word of mouth" buzz can be significantly diminished."

If the game itself is good enough, I wouldn't be so sure about that. The general server instability didn't stop WoW's player base from growing out of all proportion (well, once Blizzard got enough new servers opened up to put an end to that six-month period where they weren't shipping new boxed copies, anyway).

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 3:46PM claytondora said

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I think that this massive of an undertaking as far as development and content goes could only be handled successfully by the behemoth that is EA-Bioware. They have the resources, experience, and people necessary to make this possible. When also considering Bioware's recent merger with Mythic, which has a fairly strong background in launching MMO's, thing do look up. Regardless, the content that would need to be generated by the time frame you gave, which is fair is not possibly a bit over the mark, would take some impressive orchestration as well as a good deal of time. The thing that is important to remember is that this game has been in development for more than a few years now, and has only in the last 9 months or so really revealed any of the content.

I think if any part of the game will be lacking it will probably be strong pvp elements. There probably will be battlegrounds, but no real immersive or fun world pvp. Which will probably come later. There can only be so much stuff in a launch after all.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:01PM (Unverified) said

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If I understand correctly, Bioware did a very smart thing in buying the MMO engine rather than building it. This would easily allow them to leap frog many of the pitfalls that other MMOs have run into and skip right into content. Granted the Hero's Journey engine may be questionable but I doubt Bioware would have invested the money if it wasn't of some quality. Aside from that these guys are masters of story telling. Starting with Mass Effect and continuing into Dragon Age which I feel is probably Bioware's Torchlight project. It should allow them to see what their story telling engine can do and what needs to be refined. I would assume Mass Effect 2 will follow march that design further down the road. Before Guild Wars (and sadly to some large extent since), story telling in MMOs was non-existent. Guild Wars has shown what can be done and Bioware is hopefully going to push the envelope and I believe will skip past the technological hurdles right into content delivery.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:08PM jpkustra said

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Am I missing something? Was there a release date given for this game? What's the point of speculating on what is or isn't going to be in this game or if they have enough time to put all the experiences in when you have no frame of reference for release.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:09PM (Unverified) said

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The current rumor is for late last year, although it's simply a rumor.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:11PM (Unverified) said

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It's just amazing to me that they decided to focus on voice acting and story as the big innovations for their mmo. Really? When I think I of ways to improve mmos, voice overs and story are way down on the list. I don't hear many people saying, "If only the WoW quests were fully voiced I'd reinstall and give the game another shot." No one cares. Same goes for story. I'm not logging back into old mmos because of lore updates.

The other thing that scares me about this game is the quote I read from one of the developers stating it's going to be heavily instanced. Apparently instances allow them to better tell the story and personalize it for players. Sigh.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:19PM (Unverified) said

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Well, I guess because you don't care about story then no one else does either. Is there anything else you think needs to be included or excluded? I need to hear what you personally have to say on the matter so that I can then automatically agree.

Story is very important to a game like this. It has to be in there. Damn, I guess Bioware is in trouble now since we've both voiced our authoritative and final opinions on the subject. Whatever shall they do?
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:26PM Rich said

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Depends on how they do instances.

If they go the CO way, no way.

But instanced missions/quests aren't so bad. Sure it limits player interaction but it eliminates alot of the annoying issues with persistent world mission/questing. If done right, it won't hurt anything.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2009 2:59AM Bezza said

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I completely disagree. A full voiced MMO is an outstanding idea well worth pursuing and will set a new benchmark in MMO quality and immersion that I think most people will not appreciate fully till they experience the difference it will make.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:23PM darthinfamous said

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If I remember correctly, it was stated that each class is estimated to be over 200+ hours of gameplay

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:40PM Aganazer said

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That sounds more likely. Its also interesting what effect all the voice acting may have. That 200 hours could probably be done in less than 100 if you were to read the dialog instead of sitting there listening to it. Long dialog will be the new grind as a time sink.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:37PM Aganazer said

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100 hours to 'complete' the story would be really really bad. Most Bioware games are about 2/3 dialog anyway so you'd be looking at around 33 hours of actual gameplay. Consider that most MMOG's up until now have no voice acting and people are playing 200 hours to reach max level.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, who wants 100 hours of this disgusting 'dialog' and 'story' to get in the way of the REAL MMO gameplay, clicking TAB, 1, 2, 3 for 16 hours a day.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 4:56PM J Brad Hicks said

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Everybody I've discussed this game with personally has the same concern: if all missions have to be fully voiced with fully animated interactive mission briefings, how long will it take them to add content to the game? Once you've finished your 200 hours of leveling to max out your Smuggler or your Inquisitor or whatever, what will there be left to do? And, more to the point, how long will you have to wait before there is anything new to do?

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 5:35PM eyeball2452 said

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I think that there's a vocal minority of people that just want to just grind/PvP inMMO's and that's fine. However, I believe that the real drivers for an MMO are good gameplay and a story that immerses the player in the gameworld. The gameworld also has to be built like WoW or EVE ... I wouldn't accept instancing like AoC and COX used. To me, games are like books in that you get to the end of a chapter and can't put the book down because the story is so good and you want to see what comes next.

I'm not really interested in PvP or that virtual achievement feeling. I'll play MW2 or Halo3 for competition.

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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 5:50PM (Unverified) said

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If you do all the side quests in Mass Effect and the two DLC's the game can go as much as 50 hours. Dragon Age might be a little longer.

BioWare has said each class will have several hundred hours of main storyline content. Then after that you hit max level and do what you do, raid maybe? and PvP.

I loved Mass Effect, and I highly doubt people that "hate dialog" played games like Mass Effect.

SWTOR will be a hit. But making content patches and expansions with VO is a insane project. They set the bar high on this one.

Posted: Dec 29th 2009 6:38PM Tethadam said

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If Bioware, EA, and Lucas Arts were smart. They would wait till in the summer of 2011. That would put them in the great area of post Cataclysm doldrums, and give them plenty of time to do the game properly. Giving it that level of polish that Bioware is known for.

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