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Posted: Dec 28th 2009 12:19PM Dblade said

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Pointless. All lotteries do is make the lottery owner rich. If you need a lottery to be able to afford one of the ships, you can't afford to fly it anyways. Better to spend time figuring out how you can afford to buy one and then afford it enough to fly sustainably than making someone wealthier or hoping that in a game renowned for its scams, an honest lottery exists and you will win it.

Posted: Dec 28th 2009 12:50PM Laephis said

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This one: http://biglottery.big-eve.com/

the longest running player run lottery in EVE, begs to differ with you.
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Posted: Dec 28th 2009 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, because obviously anyone who can afford a 10 million ISK lottery ticket can easily work their way up to a 228 ship fleet without much trouble, right? Whoever wins the grand prize will be set for life as far as ships go, and can easily sell off whatever ships they can't/won't fly to have the money to fit and fly the ones they do have the skills for without much concern.

Also, if you win one of the lesser prizes and can't fly that ship for fear of it being destroyed with no way to recover it . . . you sell it for billions of ISK and make a huge profit on your investment.

Anyone who has played EVE for more than a little while can afford the ticket, and the pilot behind the contest has little reason to do it as a scam -- they already own everything there is to be owned and are rich beyond all reason. They're doing it for the notoriety, and because it's fun. They might make money, or they might make none. This isn't really a lottery, it's a raffle. Unlike a lottery, there's always a winner.
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Posted: Dec 28th 2009 6:22PM Dblade said

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Step 1: Make a big lottery with big prizes.
Step 2: Sell tickets.
Step 3: Conduct the lottery, giving all the big prizes to an alternate account that is yours, or a trusted friend of yours.
Result: You keep both the ticket proceeds and the items.

Until EVE can formalize those kinds of transactions, I will always view any lottery as a potential scam. The game revels in fraud and abuse, and has a long history of scam after scam.
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Posted: Dec 28th 2009 6:57PM (Unverified) said

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@Dblade,

Ships of EVE has been legit the first three times around, but of course this is EVE Online so anything *could* happen, but I strongly doubt it will in this case. For what it's worth, I've already entered and I'm not worried about what could go wrong. Also, as stated by PeterD above, the guy who has the ships in his possession is fantastically rich in EVE -- there's nothing among the prizes he doesn't already have (or could easily afford) anyway.

10 mill is kind of an expense when you're new, but once you've played for a while that amount is pretty insignificant. I have no reservations about dropping a few million ISK for a shot at what's on offer with this lottery/raffle.
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Posted: Dec 28th 2009 9:49PM Dblade said

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James, the guy holding the ships is the guaranteer. No idea whether or not he would be in on the take-its the lottery administrator who stands to profit. No offense, but I have zero trust in any of the players in New Eden, and if it isn't guaranteed via neutral CCP means (contract/market) I don't trust the offering.

Ironic that they just posted the Curzon Dax thing after this though.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2009 12:10AM GaaaaaH said

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Dblade, Don't forget that f90OEX recently stole one of the collectors ships to 'return' it.
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Posted: Dec 28th 2009 4:16PM (Unverified) said

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Will some of the proceeds go to the Caldian education department?

Posted: Dec 28th 2009 9:53PM Tather Demaleon said

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Cool, nice news post! \o/

Incase you are unaware I run these events to pay for the free events that I run and for free stuff I give away on Spahm Day (The Main Draw) and for the free tickets I give away to the main event. As of yet I am running at a loss overall, although the last event made the 5% target I had set (Which is paid out to shareholders).

I work in a Casino in real life and have emulated some of the processes we use there, the way everything works and is drawn is completely secure for the buyer.
I was going to go into it, but I am me and like said above I don't need anyones isk. If you doubt the legitamacy of said event, don't buy tickets or even better, play one of the free events win tickets and free stuff. I put alot of my free time into these events and seeing you all in the Spam Channel makes it worth while.

See you on Spahm Day!
-T'amber

Posted: Dec 28th 2009 11:50PM (Unverified) said

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10 mil is a handful of 0.0 rats. Winning all those ships certainly makes a ticket worth it to me!

Posted: Dec 30th 2009 5:45AM wjowski said

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You mispelled 'Obvious Scam'.

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