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Posted: Dec 6th 2009 4:54PM Crsh said

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While I really liked the trailer, I'm cautiously not getting my hopes up; Aion is in need of some tweaks and updates, let's hope NCsoft is not going to overuse the Visions of the Future trailer as a smokes & mirrors tactic to deflect attention from what needs to be done.

Yes it looks good, yes I want this stuff to be added to the game asap, but it's not going to happen right away; keep up updated, keep up wanting more, but DO deliver on those promises.

Posted: Dec 6th 2009 5:33PM Dalrint said

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Is there a free trial for Aion? I can't seem to find one.

Posted: Dec 6th 2009 6:46PM Crsh said

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There isn't one yet.
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Posted: Dec 6th 2009 6:18PM Bezza said

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I am enjoying Aion as a new subscriber, there is alot in the game that isnt made apparant to players up front, the begginers guide could sure use some expanding. It's fun for the moment, the grind isnt too bad so far -lol- i have heard it gets worse but then all my toons are still lowbies.

I dont think there is a free trial, whichis a shame as i believe try before you subscribe is a great policy.

Posted: Dec 8th 2009 5:15AM (Unverified) said

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No free trial at the moment.

Posted: Dec 6th 2009 6:36PM Alex Oglitchkin said

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Grind doesn't get truly boring til 40's

Majority of the time pathetic drops from bosses

Economy is already ruined from all the bots/gold farmers. The bans now have taken money out of the economy and items still stay overpriced.

Ayase has stated that it's possible not all the stuff they showed in the Vision trailer is gonna be implemented into Aion.

The game is slowly dying. We are having members going back to WoW until Final Fantasy, Star Wars, or until Aion becomes more fun and less of a tedious hassle for grinding and drops.

That is a summary from me.

Posted: Dec 6th 2009 10:54PM Ivasen said

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While this is your opinion, it seems very doom and gloom for it not actually being that way at all.

Random world drop items always use to be more powerful than equivalent dungeon items and that was because they dropped very infrequently.
Crafting yields usable items that are below equal level dungeon items - unless they are HQ'd, then they are usually a tad bit better but not better than an orange quality drop off of bosses.

And that is all through the leveling process until you get to endgame, which it doesn't seem like you have been there...and yet you are complaining about loot...

...something is askew.

Money is the easiest thing to come by in the game and you could change the economy if you really set out to do it, but it doesn't seem like you would do that type of thing and let other people sort it out. Don't complain if that is the case.
All MMOs have and most likely always will have these problems, if you can't handle that then this probably isn't the right gaming genre for you.

Okay, you must definitely be new to the genre if you believe that isn't the standard for everything in MMOs.
It has to be said, no questions asked. If you do promise to deliver every single thing and fail to do so, you will probably sink faster than the fat pigs eating crispy creams you are selling the product to.

Everything in the MMO world is in constant motion, things that worked yesterday might not work today and being that it is, you cannot guarantee anything that isn't already finished and shipped out the door.
1) Age of Conan - DX10
2) World of Warcraft - Aerial combat vehicles.
3) Warhammer - Healers that weren't just all about healing.
4) Launch dates.

The game is not dying despite what you want to believe.
Your guild may have fallen apart and friends might have left along with other people who may have realized this game is not for them but there is still a very large community on Aion.

It may not seem like it to you because the area you are leveling in has thinned out as a result of people hitting level cap and starting alts.

Bottom line, it may not seem like a game that is doing well if you are coming from a 11 million subscriber game.

Aion is alive and well
I would advise you to take a different outlook on things and not look so jaded if you do not want to look pompous.

And while I may not speak for everyone, I do certainly speak for the people who prefer the accomplishment of doing something that not everyone can aspire to do like the old MMOs.

World of Warcraft is and always should be the only title in the MMO genre to remain washed out and accessible to everyone.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2009 9:05AM Cendres said

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@Ivasen

Chill out, the guy just said his point of view and nothing in there makes him look pompous, however yourself on the other hand...

There have been large groups of people leaving the game, mainly due to grind problems at late levels and lack of purpose. I don't doubt some of those people will happily come back after Aion has a significant update.

You cannot deny there are definite problems with the game right now especially at end game, for example expert crafting is a serious waste of most people's time..

But all in due time those issues will get fixed and people will check it out again for the second, third and fourth time later on. This just seems to be the nature of mmos today as they are just so many out there.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2009 10:53AM (Unverified) said

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@Ivasen

For someone that thinks they are hardcore and all. You really enjoy playing carebear style games. Why don't you come to a real game where if you die you lose everything you have worked for. Then we can talk about you being hardcore and all. Until such a time stop thinking you are some mmo guru and that you think you know everything there is about the games.

Everyone knows Aion isn't doing as well as NCSoft had hoped it would. They wanted to break the 1 million sub mark (US / EU) and the game is barely holding onto the 300k-400k mark at this time in them markets. Why do you think NCSoft has moved 90% of there marketing over to Blade and Soul now? Why do you think they release this trailer and then wait a week before coming out and saying.. "Oh our bad.. this is what we HOPE to do in the future for Aion. There's no grantee any of its going to happen though.." That is just plain shady marketing at its finest there. They could have easily worded that trailer to say anything else but they didnt.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2009 1:54PM Ivasen said

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@CindyL

I only touched on the things that he touched on, there was nothing said about the short ends of the game and you know that.
All he did was generalize things that every MMO has gone through and someone had to break the news to him.
I'm not going to argue with you Cindy, I know you have good opinions on here but reread most of his post and tell me MMOs don't suffer through that at one point in it's life.

@Tom316

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Hardcore? Guru? I don't ever recall saying those, hmm.
As for the 300-400k mark..That's pretty much an average sub number.

You seem to be under the impression that I play Aion when I don't, it just doesn't take much thought to see that it is doing well on it's own.
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Posted: Dec 6th 2009 11:06PM Sean D said

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I keep a personal policy to give my subscription money to developers who seem to be pushing the envelope in game design; those who seem to be taking risks for the overall improvement of the genre.

After watching the Aion trailer, which seemed to say to the public, "This is what's coming," and giving it a couple days of thought, I resubscribed. I currently don't have a computer that I can play Aion on. Mine new system is a bit under the weather (maybe it's the season) and I'm being forced to use my old one until it heals. This is where my policy kicked in.

During the time since the release of the video, I've read a lot of back-peddling statements by NCSoft in regards to the features seen in the video. As usual, answers are ambiguous. I suppose that's to be expected anymore. The part that unsettles me is the Twitter revelation by Ayase that "The vision trailer is not a specific patch/expansion - it's a vision of what we're hoping to get out there in the future."

Why didn't they clarify this from the start? I suppose they did. 'Vision trailer'. Hmph.

Well, they weaseled another fifteen bucks out of me. They'll get no more. Ever.

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 12:59AM (Unverified) said

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Really? People that thought the vision trailer is what is coming "soon" deserve to lose the $15 dollars. Just pathetic, darwanism at its finest. That trailer is what Aion will look a year from now.

Aion is good and the doom and gloom spread by some is over dramatic. They need to work on the post 40 grind. Up to 40 the game is solid and I loved every minute of it.

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 5:12AM (Unverified) said

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The Vision video came out just before the second month subscription runs out and then no clarification is made until after this time has past.

Shame on them :( It was a cheap and underhand marketing ploy.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2009 5:06AM Alex Oglitchkin said

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Ivasen - I'm a level 46 templar nicely geared... Look up Roidrage on Zikel. Feel free to give me a message sometime.

Having world drops better than in dungeon drops is beyond retarded these days with bots. Yes there are still bots here and there, but they have made a great improvement to banning many of them. Since they took their time on banning bots inflation happened.

I'm a hardcore player and don't even mind the grind because it separates people, but in a business standpoint WoW spoiled everyone and pretty much set the standard for what majority of the MMO palyers want in an MMO these days. There are more casual players than hardcore players in probably 95% of the MMOs around now. Log on Zikel and try and find some parties for Black Claw and you will not be finding many if any. People get discouraged from the game when they can't party up early and thus quit.

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 5:13AM Alex Oglitchkin said

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Ivasen - http://na.aiononline.com/livestatus/character-legion/search?charID=54203&serverID=4

I'm nicely geared, experienced about 90% of the game.


Try and judge the game from the average MMO player and not the hardcore player and you will see more points more clearly.

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 7:48AM rchapoteau said

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I loved this game when it first came out, but the grind later on does start to wear on you. The first 30 levels are pretty good, but after that it becomes a big grind fest especialy around 38 going on.

If you enjoy running around and killing a ton of things for no real reason then you will enjoy this game. I'm still playing, for now, but its not as fun as it used to be for me.

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 9:12AM (Unverified) said

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I just picked up Aion yesterday, and so far it's been a lot of fun. To be honest it feels very much like WoW did when it first came out - which I really like/liked.

After watching that trailer, I am definitely excited to see some of that stuff implemented (those sand worms/whales loom insane!!).

An open question to people out there who are 30+ (currently) - is the grind as bad as it was earlier? I know they've patched it some since release. I had a friend who got to like level 43 (in under a month!) and said the grind was too much for him...but the way the game is coming together for me right now I can't imagine maxing out in under a month without grinding so that may have been what did it for him.

In any case I'm really enjoying it right now 8)

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 12:04PM rchapoteau said

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The thing is that the first 25 levels have intersting quests for the most part so you don't feel the grind as much. The XP is given out just right so that you don't feel it.

As you get to higher and higher levels the quests get dumb. For some reason I have to kill 100 elites (which means I need to group with 2-5 other people to do which means I need to kill 300-600 elites.to collect hairs that will give me an item with some xp, and at that point in your grind thats only a small part of the xp that you need to lvl. That one quest will take about 10 hours to do for maybe 1/20 of the xp (from the quest) that you need to lvl. Granted you get a lot of it also from killing the hundreds and hundreds of elites.


Also when your playing 1-25 for the most part you dont' HAVE to group to do quests. Its optional. When you get to higher levels it completely reverses. Most good quests require finding a full group which will require a tank, a healer and CC. For the most part your just standing in one spot for hours killing the same mob.

I still kind of enjoy the game and I'm still playing it, but I have to admit that at some point it just becomes a big grind fest.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2009 9:54AM (Unverified) said

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People are indeed leaving the game. If you use Alexa, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/aionsource.com & http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/aiononline.com , you can see the traffic declining to launch levels and steadily on its way down more. Aion Online lost about 11-16% of its traffic over the past 3 months. Aion Source has lost anywhere from 1-3.5% of its traffic.

During WAR's decline the same information was relevant and fairly accurate to the amount of people leaving.

Posted: Dec 7th 2009 12:53PM (Unverified) said

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Look I got chart to http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/1m-12m.png and http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/marketshare.png. Game is fine, most games spike at the start. Even if game only have 300k that still x15 bucks. US/EU isnt going be main market of MMO's after this year.

Video wasnt post here to hook people in for one more month. They had there gaming con in Korea. That why we seeing video/info of Guild Wars 2 and Blade and Soul.

I still play Aion a lot but find myself going less and less to websites like aionsource and main website. You get more info from Twits/facebook then you do at the websites.
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