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Posted: Nov 20th 2009 12:26PM Distaste said

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Surprised you mention B&S and not Tera Online. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbHKVSjtFWE&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Looks just as good and at least looks like it takes a different approach to combat/PvE

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 12:32PM Cendres said

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Meh this game is nowhere on my radar due that I very much fear this is a combat multiplayer game and NOT a virtual world. Which is what I'm looking for.

Tera Online actually does look more promising in my opinion with an interesting spin on economics, it's made by people who worked for NCsoft .

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 12:41PM Averice said

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The video didn't look that promising to me. Fluid combat is more important than visual appealing combat in my opinion. In an MMO anyway. If it's a single player game, well then, you get used to taking your time. But in an MMO, you always want to have done things 5 seconds ago.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 1:07PM Anatidae said

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I am just really tired of the MMO formula of one big level separating people when equally fun forms of advancement and rewards exist. Then classes. Ugh. Please stop shoving me into your idea of balanced skills. Thank goodness for games like EvE, Champions, etc... who let me form my avatar the way I want to play.

Graphically, it looks nice. I just want to see more MMO gameplay evolution. Honestly, I think Warhammer probably has done some of the most new features (yet still keeping pretty same-same in general) with the Tomb, Open Groups, & Public Quests. Yet even Cryptic picked up the PQ idea and didn't evolve it into something that might really work. Such a good idea that with more evolution could really change the way MMOs are played and encourage teamwork more.

Sorry, I rant. I just have to wonder why I bother paying $15 a month for a game that has far less depth than my single purchase of Dragon Age. Heck, even Left for Dead 2 is going to keep me having fun for a year or more to be sure - and fosters more teamwork than most MMOs these days. In fact most Left for Dead PuGs are fun and even the occassional spaz is easy enough to kick or ignore. How is it that PuGs can be so fun there and MMOs can't make them work well at all?

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 1:27PM Thac0 said

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Are you Squirrels of War?
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Posted: Nov 20th 2009 1:19PM lazymangaka said

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I really, really love that art style. And, hey, as long as the 'bad guys' don't have back hair I'll be okay.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 2:09PM Tom in VA said

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JP sums up my own feelings very well.

The game just looks junky/trashy to me, in more ways than one.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 2:16PM Holgranth said

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I gotta say I dislike the Art style but could learn to live with it.

However the character models just look like softcore anime porn. I gotta say as far as advancing the soccer mom styerio type of video games as being all violent and sexual that takes the cake.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 3:36PM myr said

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You're right - it's not anything super groundbreaking, but it's a step in the right direction if you want something different.

Too bad no sane company will attempt anything completely innovative anymore, at least not with a bad economy and whatnot. Just doesn't make sense for them to when a single MMO flop (second in NC's case) would put anyone that isn't named Blizzard out of business.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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yay..another MSOG. What happened to Multiplayer? I wanna play with others - I actually LIKE communication.

Looks kinda like Soul Caliber, MMO style, with FFIX art.

which means I do like that art. And I like the music, if the trailer music is any indication of in-game music.

But it looks like another game without roles, where people just barrel headfirst into elites, beating their heads against them until they die. Like..Champions. It also looks a lot LIKE champions, as far as the level of activity of the gameplay.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 5:14PM oxlar said

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Great more kiddie porn promoting the mixture of Sex and violence. Garbage like this should not be promoted. shame of NCsoft.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 5:30PM (Unverified) said

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The linked animations can be cool looking but as my time in Age of Conan taught me they get old fast.

Ugh, and the frustration of when your guy goes into a preset fatality animation and you're stuck in it while the other mobs are beating on you and you'd rather be doing some other action but you can't because you're stuck watching that same damn animation for the 100th time.

Hopefully they'll at least do a better job of linking up the two combatants than Funcom did. My Conan guy did quite a few fatalities on empty air.

And those girls aren't naked enough. When you get to the shirt-as-a-dress-not long-enough-to-cover-the-underwear stage it's time to just quit pussyfooting around and just go for the full naked monty.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 6:01PM Yoh said

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Again, I find myself agreeing with you JP.
As an artist myself, and a life long anime geek, I just can't stand this art style in a game. If I want porn, I go get it, I don't need it in my games thankyou.

It makes me feel ashamed to be male if I were to play it.

I will agree however, that the cinematic combat does look good, even with the pantie flashing every 5 seconds.
It's a step in the right direct in that sense, but it drops off my radar due to the shameless perversion.

Talk about sidestepping a pothole only to fall off a bridge.



I found the style I most liked was that of Guild Wars.
It has a slight animishy look to it, but it's stylized, and somewhat realistic.
And the character models are just good looking, while not being over sexed.

And too be fair, I don't really like the dirt brown, overly realistic style of games such as AoC, or Darkfall.
It just doesn't do anything for me.
I don't want characters that look about as ugly as real people. I'd just look in the mirror otherwise.


So, middle of the road, that's where I'm at.
All things in moderation.


~Yoh

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 7:09PM Graill440 said

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The art style doesnt bother me in the least, Graphics, gameplay, quests, storyline in that order.

Though this title wont get a glance from me *glances at the panties briefly* at all being ncsoft.

What i see on massively alot (and its disturbing) is a conservative crowd, more often than not i feel there is some envy invovled that, and i stereotype here, that a good portion of gamers arent in shape and are reminded of their own failings in the body dept.

To see this thread have a huge dislike of any particular "style" of graphics is amusing. My advice is to spend 22 years in the military of your choice, retire young, be in shape and have fun, right now alot of you are sitting at the kiddy table, out of shape, and i feel your own lifestyles are projected into your responses.

Understand entertainment, evaluate it, leave politics and personal feeling aside, unless you simply want to create controversy, if so please include a pic of yourself so we know where you are coming from.

Posted: Nov 20th 2009 8:27PM archipelagos said

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I think that maybe, as you said yourself, you're stereotyping just a wee bitty too much but there's some accuracy there too, no doubt. As for me, I dislike the art style not because it makes me feel inadequate (if you compare yourself to pixels you really need to get real) but because the bodies are highly disproportionate. Coming from a classically trained artistic background I tend to notice these things a lot and it can be very, very distracting. Is it also a bit annoying that the women in it look like complete tarts? If I'm honest, yes, a little bit, but it's fine as the game really isn't geared towards people like me. For the guys that get off on it, power to you, but yeah, just not my cup of tea.

Everybody can't like everything, just one of those things. It doesn't mean they're wrong in the head it's just a part of life.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2009 9:06PM oxlar said

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yeah, because overwieght computer geeks don't oogle over women or surf porn. . The problem is that maybe some of those people have a different outlook on what should be acceptable when it comes to games marketed at kids. maybe its because they have kids and do not want to see our media glorify sex with violence where some near naked (teen) girl is getting her brains bashed in while showing her panties. I don't want my kids equating sex and violence together. This is just a symptom of a greater dilapidation of our society.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2009 10:05PM Valdur said

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Looks like the massively crowd is a bit puritanical.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2009 11:39PM Seraphina Brennan said

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I think I found a topic for next week out of all of this. The whole thing is an interesting argument that I never thought would have occurred from this game.
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Posted: Nov 21st 2009 5:47PM ChromeBallz said

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@ Oxlar

There is this horrid notion that all videogames are made for kids, and the evil industry is trying to make kids violent.

Newsflash: The game is not marketed at kids. Most videogames are not marketed for kids. They are marketed at their target audience, which are males between 18 and 29, generally speaking. Those are not kids, those are adults.

How are people getting the insane idea that these kind of games are marketed at children?
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Posted: Nov 20th 2009 7:04PM hansh0tfirst said

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Spot on, Sera. I couldn't agree more.

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