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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 9:26AM Holgranth said

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"a solid first year despite some issues" If he typed that with a straight face......

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 9:37AM GaaaaaH said

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I have to admit laughing after reading the title and seeing the picture.

It's taken their first year to get to the point that it should have been at release, and the subscription numbers show it. I played at launch and probably would have stuck around if it was as it is now but ow i'm jaded.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 9:37AM (Unverified) said

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You guys seriously need to cut these guys a break. Its an official letter to the community, what do you want him to say, "Yeah we screwed up bad, our game is crap, and we are just trying to hold on to the subs we got." (Not that I think that is true) If he wrote a letter like that it would be his head on the chopping block.
I know a lot of people were very dissapointed with Warhammer, and they did make a lot of mistakes in their first year, but its been a year and its time for the haters to let it go.
You heard me, let the hate go...

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 9:49AM Felnor said

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Why should we give developers who promised the moon and failed to deliver on a game that was suppose to be oh so much better than WoW a break? Do they deserve one?
Nope and they will continue to get what they deserve.
If I was EA, I'm pretty sure I'm looking at the bottom line and trying to figure out how to best make use of the WAR Servers when SWTOR launches.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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Look I won't pretend that WAR is a perfect game. Truth is I wasn't there at launch, I wasn't on the hype train, and I wasn't dissapointed by the game like all of you were. But joining the game in its current state, I have to say that I'm having a whole lot of fun in tier 1 and recently tier 2. That may change in later tiers and it may not. But the point is I'M HAVING FUN.

Everyone who hates the game just because it wasn't their dream MMO like the devs promised it would be have a right to be angry. But its been a year, move on. Find a new MMO. You don't have to like WAR in its current state, but just know that there are people who do and who want it to suceed.

Also, I have no doubt that this letter says only what EA allowed it to say. So even if Jeff didn't want to sugarcoat it, I doubt he had a choice.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 9:46AM elocke said

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Also, having been playing the game this week in tier 1, its is amazing how many people are at least trying the game. RVR has been incredible for my lowbie alts and I have been having a blast. What will be interesting to see is what EA/Mythic will do with this new found influx of players who at the very least in tier 1 are saying good things about the game.

I also ran the Hunters Vale dungeon at level 10 for the first time and it was surprisingly good. Not only that, the section where the eagles pick you up and fly you up to the tree top has a musical section that blew me away, so much in fact that I really wish they would make the music in the game more consistent and prevalent as the score is actually really good.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 10:05AM Lateris said

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I have to agree. I am having a good time in the starting area. I have no idea what the rest of the game is like. As I am new to the Warhammer games, books, and so forth I Just can't believe how much Blizzard has ripped off from the Warhammer franchise.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 10:29AM Nadril said

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It's just going to be a barren wasteland once you get out of T1. Everyone is trying out that trial now.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 10:30AM (Unverified) said

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Lateris,

The fantasy genre has been ripping one another off since Tolkien, it's nothing new.

Please, please, please, EA don't screw up on SWTOR.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 9:49AM Blue Kae said

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Nothing really surprising in the letter, that was pretty much what he had to say. I'm more interested to see what they do in the next 3-6 months.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 11:25AM Floweringmind said

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There is nothing surprising about what is going on here. The reality is that EA is one of the worst game companies out there. It has a formula of buy successful game companies, milk all the money they can out it and then killing them by getting rid of all the people who produce them.

Apparently a game has to make something close to what the SIMs makes or they kill the game. With MMOs they are almost as bad as Microsoft who basically kills them before they are released.

EA also killed:
Ultima Online 2
Earth and Beyond which I loved.
Motor City Online
BattleTech 2125

Hey at least Dragon Age is really fun and will most likely have a sequel and they are produced by EA.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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I really wanted to like WAR but the technical issues and the horrible class imbalances drove me off thrice already.

Also for the above comment about EA, that might be EAs past but right now the general consensus about EA is that they are a pretty good publishing house. I was disconnected from the world for about 7 months so when I logged in to a popular videogame forums and saw the vast majority of the posters say good things of EA I was shocked.

The current evil videogame company is activision and boy are they horrible!

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 12:30PM Saker said

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I agree with Felnor why should developers be given a break, that's why these games ALWAYS ship broken/incomplete. Hold them accountable! NEVER pre-order, NEVER buy these things at launch, they're NOT ready, that's the nature of American style capitalism today, all short-term greed without consideration of long-term quality and profitability.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 12:39PM (Unverified) said

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EA stock has been in a steady decline since the recession hit. It's a solid company capable of making a good game. They also own Bioware which is the Steven Spielberg of the gaming business.

If some of you have not tried Dragonage yet - take a break from your MMO and do it. The only downside is that they didn't create a multiplayer option like NWN.

On the flip side. Warhammer is such a shameless ripoff of WoW, right down to the graphics and the gnome steampunk culture that I find myself actually hoping Warhammer will fail. Before you reply with the WoW is a ripoff of UO or the original Warhammer or DnD, I've heard it all before. Warhammer is almost the exact same game as WoW except for the great RvR concept, which I hope WoW rips off (not to say they haven't already pulled some of the good things from Warhammer).

WoW spend a considerable time in development and not rushed to the presses like Warhammer was.

Warhammer's decision to copy WoW one of the worst business decisions that I've seen since SOE's SWG spiral towards obscurity. If you are going to try and clone WoW - the only way you can do it successfully is to make it better than WoW. That's very hard to do because Blizzard, like Bioware, has their act together.

EA could have made a great MMO, based on RvR without using WoW as a model.

I feel bad for those that were laid off, but it's probably the right thing to do. The blame lies in facts like that Spore was the most pirated game in history. A culture still exists were today's youth feel that these companies are greedy and they "owe" the game players or that they don't want to pay to "try" a game. The money lost is probably immeasurable but the result I think will be companies having to rely on subscription games and in microtransactions.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 3:19PM drunkenpandaren said

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You probably think the words 'There' and 'Their' are the same? Huh?
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 3:54PM (Unverified) said

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good, well thought out retort. You probably think the Monkeys are better than the Beatles.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 6:19PM drunkenpandaren said

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Oh man, you're such a funny guy.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2009 1:09PM (Unverified) said

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They just milking everything they can out of a failed game until The Old Republic is here.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 1:17PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not going to argue with you on any of those points, except for one, because you're flat out wrong:

"...gnome steampunk culture".

There are no Gnomes in Warhammer. The Warhammer Dwarves and Warcraft Dwarves are fairly similar, though, since they both use steampunk tech.

However, unless Warcraft went back in time to the mid-80s,Warhammer had the steampunk Dwarves first. It's obvious that the Warcraft series was heavily, heavily influenced by the Warhammer tabletop game. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, or a good thing, I'm simply saying how it is, and to claim otherwise is to beincredibly obtuse. In terms of storyline and in-game history, though, the games are completely, completely different.

With all that said, World of Warcraft is the superior MMORPG, hands down, and it's very obvious the gameplay and mechanics in Warhammer Online were heavily influenced by WoW, which was foolish; no game can"out-WoW" WoW. It was even more foolish because the game was so half-assed; crappy engine, terrible performance even on decent systems, awful class balance, and seemingly no real direction as to where the hell they wanted to go after launch. Instead of trying to make a more unique game, they basically just took WoW, removed the PvE and added a PvP system that while cool on paper, was implemented poorly and seemed to have absolutely no cohesive plan for the direction of the game.

Posted: Nov 11th 2009 6:19PM drunkenpandaren said

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I actually wouldn't call the game engine in WAR terrible, mostly because the other games on the gamebyro are pretty much triple A titles that do run smoothly. It's just the engine was poorly modified. I wasn't even aware that gamebryo supported massive multiplayer al la Unreal.

The only faults of Warhammer was the hype that players were building over it. You make points on gameplay being much like WoW but really WoW's gameplay is pretty much the staple of the entire history of MMOs, it hasn't evolved much beyond EQ's system of pressing a button to make something happen. I see WAR being more of a spiritual successor to DAoC. But with the likes of any MMO it still needs to find that direction you mentioned.

Also the obvious reason why it's not doing good is because it lacks Skaven as a PC race.
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