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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 7:49PM DrewIW said

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Providence is lit up pretty nice. Hard fighting and lots of ship kills.

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:08PM Sephirah said

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"CVA and has spent the last two years orchestrating the downfall of Curatores Veritatis Alliance as retribution."

You all need professional help for obsessive-compulsive disorder, or whatever psychological disturb you have. ASAP!

Posted: Oct 29th 2009 12:51PM (Unverified) said

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Why just because they play a game where their work might actually have some long term effects? Guess what some people like a game that is more then raiding the same damn new dungeon that blizzard has cooked up each week. And yes this is coming from a WoW player so go back under your bridge and troll somewhere else.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:09PM (Unverified) said

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Hoping it's not a hack, but legit. ;)

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:26PM organiclockwork said

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Considering that BULLETPROOF 50CENT (What a terrible name. Completely kills the admittedly neat role-playing aspect of this entire ordeal) is part of a Corp whose motto - "We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us..." - is that of the /b/ message boards of 4chan, who are pretty well known for hacking various accounts and other unsavory activities, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was an account hack.

Posted: Oct 29th 2009 6:19AM Omega2k3 said

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lol 4chan
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:50PM (Unverified) said

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Raises the question, if the account who disbanded the alliance is "generally not active" why did it have director access to disband the alliance? Crying hack is the go-to response in these situations. BoB was pretty convinced of the same thing when it happened to them. My guess is the account was "generally not active" because it was a sleeper agent used to infiltrate the executor corp but not used very much by the person who owned it. They probably gave the login to a friend in the group of saboteurs so they could login and disband the alliance. Another possibility is that the person who owned the account went over to a friend's place to do the disbanding because they wanted to share it in-person with a co-conspirator. I know I would like to share such a monumental event with someone.

Posted: Oct 29th 2009 3:19AM (Unverified) said

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I doubt /b/tards are behind it as they havn't been able to pull of anything remotely like this for years. These days /b/ operates as little more than an equivalent to a public chat channel in MMOs with a few pedophiles who think their IP's aren't logged.

Back on topic, I do hope it's legit and not a hack!
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:13AM (Unverified) said

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If you read the article properly, it says "at a time the account is generally inactive". So, if the account used is active on, say, Mon-Thurs 6pm-12am, anything outside that would be "at a time the account is generally inactive".
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:55PM (Unverified) said

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@Clockwork:

I think you're giving /b/tards too much credit. I'd sooner think this is just some anon trying to troll and wave his epeen around then a legitimate case of account theft. Anon likes to cause trouble and disrupt the general flow of things, but two years of subtle and careful manipulation? If we were talking about changing someone's facebook password, I'd buy that.

Could this have been a hack from someone else? Sure, anything's possible. But anonymous is too lazy for this.

Posted: Oct 29th 2009 12:59AM organiclockwork said

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A valid point.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 11:47PM (Unverified) said

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So... basically /b = Goons... interesting.


BTW, This is getting rather annoying. Being able to decimate years of hard work in a mere second is sorta stupid and CCP needs to find a way to make it so not so many corps are getting the shaft. Say, introduce a new 24 hour notification feature that will tell everybody they are getting disbanded and give the other executives time to reverse that command either by voting or something else. I'm just brainstorming here...
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:56PM (Unverified) said

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2 years of revenge.

Does it taste sweet or bitter?

I bet you'll go back to playing a console game and feel dissatisfied.

:p

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:10PM (Unverified) said

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The account was not 'generally inactive'. The pilot responsible is one of our most active and has been a contributing member of the alliance for over three years. The CVA has existed since 2003 and we do not hand out 'Directorships' easily.

What was stated in the article above was that the account is generally not active at the time the 'disband' took place.

The account holder is late US TZ - yet the disband and associated theft took place in early Euro TZ. In addition when the player logged in he was not automatically in the many channels that he would be if he was logging in from his own PC (which saves these preferences). This indicates that person who disbanded us entered the game from a different PC. As a 'betrayal' of this kind is not actually illegal in game (as the BoB incident demonstrated) there would be no reason for this player to log in from a different PC if a simple betrayal was all it was.

Finally, we have also been in direct contact with the owner of the account who appears to be greatly upset with having his account commandered in this way!

I would also like to add that we are aware of the 'harsh' realities of EVE and regularly post reminders to our members that they should change their passwords regularly, that they don't use the same passwords on external forums as they use to login to the game etc. However EVE has been hit by a spate of kelogger linking dodgy sites, to the point where CCP have actually implemented a warning for anyone clicking an external link from the EVE forums.

While it may still prove that this is simply a matter of betrayal we believe that all the evidence in this case does indeed point to a hack and from what I have been told CCP are taking this very seriously.

Posted: Oct 29th 2009 1:33AM Yoh said

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You know what would be a good mechanic to counter this kind of fly-by-night disbanding; a 24 hour grace period from the point of hitting the disband button.

A which point it can be overturned by majority vote by those who hold a position in order to set the disband in the first place.
Thus giving ample time to fix it before it becomes a problem, while not infringing too badly on a corp or alliances means to disband.


Think about it.
Maybe bring it up with the CSM if you think it is a good idea.

~Yoh
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:30PM (Unverified) said

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What is amazing about what CVA has done in Providence is that right now there are thousands of non-CVA pilots defending Providence at every entrance to the region until this is situation is resolved.

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 10:46PM (Unverified) said

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Another reason I'm letting my Eve sub run out this month. Even though I'd like to drop everything and go help CVA (my guy is right there too), as the article says, "all manner of espionage and underhanded tactics are permitted". Moral issues aside, winning like that is the diametrical opposite of FUN for cripe's sake. If you have to do that, you're pretty much admitting that you fail at winning, but you don't care 'cause you got to shaft someone.

Since CCP is confused in the head and thinks that kind of thing is a "win", I see more and more fair fighters like me quitting out, eventually resulting in the entire game being composed of failgamers and their alts. Same as has killed every other PvP game that confused griefers with winners, just 'cause they spent 24/7 bs'ing on the forums :(

Time to find a fill-in until Black Prophecy / something else fun comes out I guess.

Posted: Oct 29th 2009 12:59AM organiclockwork said

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Some people find the espionage and subterfuge aspect of the game to be fun. That's a good deal of the draw for many of the people that play. It really irks me when people state that something entirely subjective isn't fun simply because it doesn't fit their definition of fun. Many people enjoy it. If you don't like it, don't play it, but don't say that CCP is "confused in the head," for the type of gameplay they chose. If it's so bad, why are so many people happily playing it?
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:48PM GaaaaaH said

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"at a time the player... is generally not active" ie While the player is usually asleep/at work

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:50PM Miffy said

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When are they gonna fix this flawed system? It makes no sense for one person to be allowed to disband, it should take several people to decide.

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