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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:21AM AyAitch said

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Yes, Cardassians!

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:44AM MrGutts said

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So which are the new ones? The ones at the end of the gallery or at the beginning?

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 10:45AM misterorff said

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Ones at the end are new. And yes, Hooray for Cardassians!
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 11:16AM Anatidae said

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Whee. More pictures to taunt the people who paid for beta access but are still awaiting. Reading the STO forums is pretty funny these days.

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 12:32PM Ayenn said

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for the love of god! you people and "I paid for beta access". We paid for a life time sub or a 6 month sub. The CB access was part of the package, not THE package. there was also no statement that we would get in before others that fit their desired early test profile.

And, if you put that kind of money just to get into CB, your a nimrod. Really, who in their right mind would pay that much for such a thing?
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 12:38PM Anatidae said

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I am not complaining, rather I think it is funny to see the forums awash with them. It seems to interject into all the threads. Although, it is lessening a bit this week with Blood Moon out.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 12:53PM Ayenn said

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The sad thing is that those who "bought" CB access and are complaining about not getting in right away will probably not actually test as much as they will complain about the game not being finished. In that I actually wish Cryptic had not attached CB to the premium subs.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 1:31PM Anatidae said

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Angel, I hear you there. Some sap thinks his idea to utilize beta spots in contests and promotions for paid transactions was a great idea. I think I read that they gave away a few hundred more beta spots this week in another contest.

It seems to me that beta is for testing. It would make way more sense to set aside a few weeks or even a month or more to a "preview" period where those giveaways have access. Sort of like saying, "Here, play the game for free!"

Plus, like every MMO that has major game changing patches the first few weeks of release, then that would be happening inside a preview weekend and not the final paid game.

I believe beta testers should be picked on the criteria of how well they will test the game, either through equipment testing, available schedule, or even an online interview test. Definitely not a contest or, worse, a bonus in a offer for sale.

My only complaint is that I think that people who did pay for the access, even if it is just a "perk", are not getting equal returns. By that I mean everyone paid the same amount, yet some people are going to get more access time. Because it was money transaction, I feel that sets the bar higher on treating everyone more equal. It isn't like movies let some of their paying ticket holders into the movie after others. Even movies that are screeners - if you have a ticket you can at least get in line to see the movie.

Messed up. I hope STO does well - but I feel the marketing department of Cryptic should come up with a new strategy.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 4:37PM breezer said

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I rarely play the noob card, but seriously, what kind of MMO amateur pays for a life time sub before there's even gameplay footage available?

It's one thing if you just want to be supportive of the game, but your sense of entitlement for some standard of quality is incredibly naive.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 12:47PM vicryixiv said

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what's with the duplicates?

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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New gallery system, should be fixed momentarily.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 4:00PM Anatidae said

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Breezer,

I am not sure your point. Are you saying that people who paid for the lifetime subscription are noobs because the offer was available before the game was released?

Or are you inclining that a customer of such a purchase would be a noob to expect the same return on investment than the other customers?

I hope that I am not suggesting Cryptic should meet an arbitrary standard of quality. Not at all. I might be suggesting that they should treat all their paying customers equally and there could have been better ways of selling access to STO other than offering beta slots - which could have been rewarded too all the customers equally.

I won't argue about any standard of quality though. Anyone who purchased the lifetime subscription before the game release was taking a gamble based on Cryptic's previous work and press. I agree that if anyone feels entitlement for some perceived standard of quality is disillusioned. Even back on topic, if Cryptic let everyone who purchased the right to be in beta access on the last day of beta, I might call them jerks, but I wouldn’t say anyone was entitled to any more or less as per the offer.

As a comparison, when NCSoft gave away beta keys to AION, when you won your key you got access to their very next beta. They didn’t say you won a key and then waited for some random time to give it to you. They also offered different beta phases that some keys accessed and others didn’t. All in all, they used beta as a promotion and rewarded it quickly and efficiently. In Aion beta, it did seem that there was a sense of equality in access, even if yours sucked because of when you got it. This lacked in Champions and now it seems STO too.

Posted: Oct 28th 2009 5:55PM breezer said

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As someone said, you bought a subscription, not beta access. Beta access is an additional gift, so even if you only get access to the last hour of beta, you can't really complain.

About the other thing, I was admittedly quick to judge.

From my personal experience with MMOs, you can NEVER know what you are going to get until you play the thing.

The Brad McQuaids and Paul Barnetts of the development world will tell potential customers whatever they want to hear, no matter how preposterous (I'll never forget Barnett's "WAR is like led zepplin and sex" comments... what the hell...) to get them desperate to play. I think we've all had the "omg this is gonna be the most awesome game ever and waiting to play it is unbearable!"-feeling, and I think a lot of us have been ultimately disappointed when we find that the game doesn't live up to the hype.

Buying into hype (literally) is a huge gamble in MMOs. Well, not HUGE in terms of money invested, but, again just from my experience, the more you invest in anticipating awesomeness, the more disappointed and (usually) angry you will be when it dawns on you you are not playing the game you were promised.

But it's your life and your money and I sincerely hope this game turns out well but considering the market in recent years, I can't help but be a cynic.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 2:26AM EdmundDante said

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Far too cartoonish. What a disappointment for many Star Trek fans. You would think this MMO would be cutting edge with the latest in graphic realism.

Fail.


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