So MMO devs need to start making shittier games?

Yeah, let them act like From Software, and let MMO's enjoy all the success the games based on King's Field (like demon souls is) has. :/

Actually, when you die you don't de-level, you lose all your currency/exp, aka Souls. If you can get back to where you died without dieing again you can get them all back though.

The only way you De-level is if you invade another's world and die in any way besides them, if you lose to them in a duel, or a certain spell is used upon you. The latter two technically just "transfer" the level over, as the winner/caster gains the amount of souls you spent to get to that level.

As for you two, STFU, simply put. Your opinion, personally I love Demon Souls because you actually need to pay attention to what happens. And how does the game run off the name of another game? I never heard of Kings field but I bought Demons Souls first day because the concept is something I liked, and so far I'm enjoying it. Game isn't crap, you're skills and reflexes are.

Devilsei, From software has been doing dungeon crawlers like that since the ps one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_field is the very first one, but they all were punishing, hardcore games, and very few people even remember them.

That's why the "enjoy the success" comment, chances are demon souls will be forgotten as quickly as the kings field games were, and there are quite a few games based on the same principles that tank at market: Etrian Odyssey and the Dark Spire for nintendo DS come to mind. There isn't a shortage of offline games like that, and I'm not sure its a good example for MMO's to follow.