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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 5:11PM fairyfay said

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good little interview. i just got a new comp and am currently installing aion right now. its always good to hear its not just about income, and how they care about what is going on with the actual consumer. im very excited to start playing. keep up the good coverage with everything.

Posted: Oct 8th 2009 5:57PM Celestian said

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Not one word about the massive grind the game turns into? The game has some amazing points but the single worst has got to be the grind, at 34 it's stupid. Quests are almost non-existent.

Ask them what they plan to do in that regard. It's all I can do to login now to just grind mindlessly all night to try and level up to the next grind.

Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:28PM Wensbane said

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NCSoft has already announced that they're going to increase quest exp by 500% (!), with the next major patch. This was even covered by Massively yesterday.

What more can you possibly want?!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:45PM JaySpeed said

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What more could I possibly want?

How about them making the change prior to launch? I mean the game has only been out in Korea for a year. Did they not have enough time to increase quest XP so the game wouldn't be such a grind? I know Asia loves the grinding MMO but isn't part of westernizing the game eliminating the grind completely? NC Soft dropped the ball on this. It's nice it'll eventually get fixed but it wasn't soon enough IMO.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 8:45PM Celestian said

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The Massively article didn't mention if it was ALL quests or just level 40+ quests. The grind starts way before 40 ;_)
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 8:52PM Wensbane said

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My reply was directed to Celestian, not you Jason.

Celestian can't complain about them "not saying a word about reducing the grind" when they have already made a public announcement and taken the first steps to rectify things.

You CAN complain about these steps not being taken before release, of course. With that, I would agree. But you simply can't accuse NCSoft of not recognizing their own mistakes and trying to fix them. They are, to my surprise, doing just that!

This coming from someone who expected Aion to be "just another asian grinder" and ended up enjoying the game quite a lot. Just goes to show you never know before you try, I suppose.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 5:14AM MrGutts said

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The grind starts around 20 and just wait till lvl 50's start rolling in to ruin your day while you level.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:22PM TKWD said

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Correct me if I'm wrong but NCSoft has already upped all the quest EXP as of the latest patch. I would also assume that new quests would be on their way as well.

I remember AoC had a terrible grind in the mid 30's or so, but was quickly patched up with exp gains and extra quests.

Give it a few weeks it should smooth itself out :)

Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:26PM Celestian said

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From what I have read that's 40s quests though I suppose it could be the lower ones as well. Unfortunately I've exhausted almost all the quests at my level so if they do it wouldn't help me till I gained a few more levels or they add more quests.

I'm already feeling the burn ;(
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:51PM Valentina said

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I think they did that on purpose so that the whole playerbase isn't level 50 within a week or 2. The quest XP rates are being increased by 500% in the next big patch.

Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:54PM (Unverified) said

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To Celestian:

90% of the players are still under level 20. They will patch and adjust the experience as more players get higher. I'm sure their biggest concern at launch was to make the game the most fun experience they could in the pre-20's, and not to be overly concerned with a few powergamers who rush rush rush to be first to 50.

It's a fun game so far for me, I'm LV15, and it keeps getting better. I'm also in no rush, I'm an alt-oholic, so I plan on trying a bunch of classes before deciding what's my favorite.

Posted: Oct 8th 2009 8:50PM Celestian said

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While I might be slightly ahead of the average I am not so much wanting the leveling pace faster, I just don't want to have to mindlessly kill the same mobs and grind a level out.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 8:41AM Aganazer said

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"90% of the players are still under level 20." Wow! Really?

I got close to 20 my first weekend playing in beta. I am always surprised at how little (or inefficiently) most people play MMOG's.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 11:26AM Cendres said

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@ Aganazer

Most people have also tried out at least 3 classes to a reasonable to decide which class they wanted to play, a lot of people don't just start an mmo and pick whatever class and zoom to 20.... There's a bit more to it. And not everyone was in the betas either in which case their progress will be slower because it's all new.

And if you craft you can spend entire sessions not leveling your class at all....
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 11:27AM Cendres said

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I meant zoom to 50 not 20...... Can we have an edit button? :P
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:58PM Mr Angry said

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It's been out 2 weeks and people are already burnt out?

I think companies like NC Soft have decided that there are certain types of customer they aren't really interested in, so I'm not surprised they made leveling difficult to start with. Those who are looking for a quick fix of max level fun probably aren't the highest priority for them.

While it's nice they have addressed this, it was hardly ever game breaking. I don't understand why people need to be hand held via questing to level anyway, what about raising cash by hunting what you want to kill? Why not group with friends to help them on their quests, why do people need this safety net?

If players are unable to change their perspectives, it's going to be very hard for the genre as a whole to move forward. I hope that players can embrace a MMO that is supposed to be a bit harder in the future, which does challenge and isn't something that is finished in two weeks, and for those who are not interested in this level of challenge, there are already plenty of alternatives currently available.

Posted: Oct 8th 2009 7:39PM (Unverified) said

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I hope the MMO genre can embrace the idea that "hard" and "long tedious grind" aren't the same thing, and that there can be levels of challenge that aren't based around the "levelling is a chore, and the game starts once you hit the level cap" paradigm. Not using classes and levels would be a start.

You seem to be describing a return to the mechanics of 8-10 years ago as "the genre moving forward."
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 9:59PM Celestian said

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I love when people state there are "already mmos that already 'insert something silly'".

There are ALREADY mmos that are "challenging" to level. EQ1 and DAoC come to mind. What, you want to go back and play those I bet? Ok, so stop trying to tell people there are "already mmos" that do something out there and trying to convince them they should go play those.

Besides, the problem is that you have to grind levels killing mobs endlessly, not that leveling is to slow. The fact you can't level up questing makes the game BORING and mindless for many people that have already played some of those
"already mmos" and are sick of that.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 11:47PM Valdur said

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I'm glad that this kind of customer is not a priority to NCsoft because they are the MMOhopper type who always complain about every single thing which is not given to them.

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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 10:19AM thesage42 said

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Yes, the people who prefer questing over mob grinding are the scum of the earth and they'll all be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
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