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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:24PM Ivasen said

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I agree, they do well in other Markets.

I have their first generation iPhone, I was unhappy to hear that it would not support the newer features however. Their company degration on items could improve however.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:51PM DrewIW said

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So are all Mac users assholes?

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:54PM Lethality said

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My comments hit home, I understand.

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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:00PM DrewIW said

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First post at 9:12, latest post at 10:54, a mere 3 minutes after mine.

Your insecurity is showing.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:14PM Lethality said

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What? Straw-man argument? Or just past your bedtime?
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:22PM engrey said

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No Leathality is just bored because the TOR forums have been down since around noon. So he sniffs out the internet so he can bring his vast knowledge of the Mac to Massively. Then proceed to share his ideals and thoughts about Mac, how its regarded higher then God himself, and how my laptop, a dell, running Vista, is more powerful for 1200. Oh an no viruses, maleware, spyware, or any of that junk.

But sigh, like people who get macs I must admit, if you are getting one to game you deserve to be removed from the gene pool. If you use it for other reasons, work, school, music/movie edit, then yes that is respected and I approve.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 9:02AM (Unverified) said

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No, Lethality really isn't a good example of a good mac user. Most mac users buy them for ease of use, or because they want to run graphic design apps on a nice layout.

People like him who buy them to look style aware and insult windows users on their wine tastes (and frankly, any true wine fan will tell you that these boxed wine has many advantages in many situations. Or anybody who isn't a total snob for that matter) are the real scourge. No knowledge of how the thing works, and just like the shiny apple.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:18PM (Unverified) said

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Read the comments expecting a bunch of 'WAR for Apple? What's the point, that game sucks anyways.'

But you can never count out the fanboys.

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:32PM (Unverified) said

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"Same thing with productivity software - we don't need 77 shitty word processors, we have the market leader - Microsoft Word."

Sounds like IE 5 years ago.

Luckily the Firefox team didn't listen to you, Lethality.

Posted: Sep 30th 2009 12:30AM (Unverified) said

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*Stands up*

My name is Sporkboy and I am a WAR fanboy and Mac user.

Phew.

I feel so much better now.

Posted: Sep 30th 2009 3:13AM (Unverified) said

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Let's see MAC has a 2% market share.

WAR subs are now around 60K players (if you count the ratio of Wow-War on Xfire) and they came from 120K a mere 6 weeks ago.
Of course due to the new MMO's launched.

So that COULD mean WAR will have 1.5 K more players in a few weeks time.

I guess by then they will be down to 55 K players.

So a win/win situation of - 4 K players.

Of course on the longer run it could mean extra costs to maintain the support, resulting in longer delays between patches and more personnel.

Ouch, more personnel ...

Summer 2010: then War will run on thin air as EA will make a cost effective report and just launch SWKotor

Sorry folks of Mac, I think your machine is already costing too much money to even add another sub card for a game that is already on the RIP side of things.

Posted: Sep 30th 2009 4:24AM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 6:56AM Lethality said

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Mac consumer market share is near 10%. Fact.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 8:46AM engrey said

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Lethality I though we proved you wrong on the fact on the TOR forums a while ago. The site/company that said 10% went back and made some more conservative estimates and it was only around 3-4% of the worlds market.

Again of that 10% how many are playing games? Since I see a lot of macs around my campus and we have some in the library and the video building. So of the 10 how many are playing MMOs and specifically WAR?

The same argument can be made for Windows users but obviously many more are playing WAR. Of the world market share how many are gamers? That is a hard stat to find. I would guess 1-2% if that, of mac users play games.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 9:12AM Lethality said

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MC - I think you're mistaken as to how that discussion went... short term memory is failing you.

Any reasonable data analyst would use given general numbers to make an assumption. Let me help you now:

- Consumer market share is 10% for the Mac
- Gaming is a primarily consumer (not business) market
- It can be assumed that the same percentage of Mac consumers play games as do the same percentage of PC users
- Using this extrapolation, if WoW has 12 million players (13 million by some late assumptions), that's 1.2 million Mac players
- Just to account for error in assumption - let's cut that number IN HALF - 600,000 - that's only 5% of the market share

So you can see how, especially MMOs, cannot ignore the Mac market... especially a game like TOR with an IP of such broad appeal. If WAR got just HALF of those subscribers, then Mac players would outnumber PC players in Warhammer.

The potential is huge especially for monthly subscription models... publishers would be fools to ignore it, especially with the ubiquity of the iPhone and iPod demonstrating the level of quality the Apple brand brings.

Why do you suppose Blizzard supports the Mac, in parallel, with their Windows software? It sure isn't for charity.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 5:34AM Metalheart said

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I have an imac with bootcamp, i have mainly being playing wow because it runs in OSX and unlike all my other mates have yet to have my account hacked! I have moved onto Aion on my windows partition and just love having the best of both worlds!

I really dont see any financial reason to make mac clients of less popular MMOs every mac user i know has windows running.

Posted: Sep 30th 2009 8:09AM GaaaaaH said

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Because then you get level minded users such as Lethality?.

But in reality it's probably for the mac users who don't know about bootcamp. My time in WAR last year had a fun thread where someone bought WAR for their mac and assumed it would work because WOW did.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 9:04AM Lethality said

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Why should I have to pay a $200 premium for a sub-par OS?

Then, why should I have to boot into that sub-par OS, giving up the rest of my computing experience - the one I already paid a premium for?

There are few Mac users who will do that just to play a game... but millions who will just buy a game directly.

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Posted: Sep 30th 2009 9:22AM Metalheart said

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I have always wondered what Windows costs ;)

Posted: Sep 30th 2009 9:35AM jwoelich said

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Aren't Mac users too busy color-coordinating their computer with their drapes, and getting ready for their next support parade...to be playing these silly games?

Lethality; your ignorance is showing, yet again. Since most Mac users are forced to toss away their old system due to inability to upgrade their iAppliance (acceptable with laptops, not so much with the glorified laptop-on-a-stick iMac "desktop computer") you could get the OEM copy of Windows 7 HP, which will only set you back about $110. That is, if you want to actually *do* anything with your system, other than watch jumping icons, spinning beachballs, and really cool kernel panic screens.

Best of luck in your crusade!

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