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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 7:31PM Cendres said

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Nice to know about the harvesting hats! I need to get one of those right away. ;)

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 6:36AM Crsh said

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It's worth noting there are 4 hats for ground gatherine and 4 hats for aerial gathering; each works with the tier of gathering you're working in. That is, 1-99, 100-199, 200-299 and 300-400 (450?) - they become more expensive as you go up, obviously.

For instance, if you're working in a zone where resources require 100-120, but you're wearing the 1-99 hat, you won't see them on your mini-map.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 4:48PM Crsh said

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I apologize, I got mixed up here.

There are 4 levels of hats for each gathering types, but each tier supersedes the lower one; the 199 ones will do just fine with 99-and-lower resources.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 7:43PM (Unverified) said

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Thank you for the great tips, Brooke. Loved your Return to War articles (have a little Squig Herder myself) and these tips for Aion are quite helpful.

Posted: Sep 28th 2009 8:08PM (Unverified) said

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"Actually, best results probably come from grinding 100% of the time"

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the problem with Aion, and probably many other MMOs as well.

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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Oh boohoo, the fastest way to level isn't always the most fun.

Think of it this way... You're trying to get from City A to City B. You can either:

a) Take the interstate, which is very fast but awfully boring

or

b) Take the parallel state highway, which is slower, has stops in many different towns, but is far more interesting

If the fastest way to level is always questing, why even have attackable mobs? Just make the game Village Visiting Online, where you go from village to village collecting berries and delivering cotton candy.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 8:36PM Distaste said

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You do realize that for a time, in WoW grinding was the absolute bar none best XP in the game, right? I remember AOE grinding from lvl 46 until 57 on my mage in early vanilla wow within 2-3 weekdays. Oh those maraudon slimes!

http://www.warcraftcinema.com/00120062001001015/FrostMageAoEMaraudon.movie?u=3

Grinding(IE killing lots of mobs) does not mean its tedious or slow. I can't speak for later levels but I'm a 27 asmo templar and currently 1hour of killing mobs can net me half a level and I kill much slower than other classes. From what I hear the Asmo have it harder from 20-25 but after that it goes pretty quick.

Posted: Sep 28th 2009 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Is your experience with Aion a "Cryon?"

Har har!

Posted: Sep 28th 2009 8:50PM (Unverified) said

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@Jason

Why are all your comments totally useless?
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 9:02PM (Unverified) said

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I've only posted two totally useless comments in my entire post history.

My definition of a useless comment is:

1. A comment which does not contain any kind of valid argument form or statement. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_form)
2. A comment which does not contain a response to a valid argument form, question, or statement.

So I'll make a statement here.

The balanced approach to leveling through arriving at a quest location and then maximizing your travel time by grinding the mobs there is without a doubt the way to go in any MMO that reward you significantly for killing individual mobs. "Significantly' in this case means that you can get an entire quest's worth of XP by grinding mobs in the time it would take to travel to the next quest location and complete it.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 9:46PM myr said

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1- is really only best below skill 100. After that, you'll probably want to do the lowest level workorder available to you (but still past 100) until you get all the recipes you want. Reason for this is past 100, several green recipes start getting handed out that are not buyable, unless you have 50k+ kinah to spend on each on the broker. Besides, you'll get more exp that way too, even if it does take forever to skill up. That is, unless you don't care about the recipes.

4- Once you hit level 27'ish Elyos side, grinding the level 29-31 4-dot elite mobs in Kaiden Mine with a group is the most efficient exp I've seen in the game so far. Just kill 'em over and over, and rack in the exp, money, and rare drops. You can possibly start there as early as 25 if you're a healer, but I wouldn't recommend it that early for melees unless you have accuracy slotted on your gear (normally a waste) and lv24-25 weapon(s).

Excited to try out the fire temple myself, just hit level 30 last night. Stupid queue! I don't find entry keys while waiting in line!

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:52AM Jesspiper said

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Yes, Aion is very grindy. But then again so is almost every other MMORPG out there, they are just more subtle in how they hide it (like LOTRO's Legendary Item system and Deeds).

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 2:27AM (Unverified) said

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Very grindy but how are you meant to play it now? I'm all for calling for calm at launch, and I don't mind waiting, but the server cues are actually increasing day by day, incredibly so.

Even what was the 'low pop' servers now have a 2 and a half hour plus waiting time, a bit much when you've only set two hours on an average evening to play.

A bit ironic really for me to be down on the subs system but I've paid for a months access now and there's a really good chance of offering them up for prosecution for failure to provide services I've paid for. If someone sells 80'000 concert tickets with only room for 40'000 then they would be expected to pay back, why shouldn't AION pay back for too little capacity, or any other game?

About time this industry was made to grow up a little and deal with things like server transfers like a real business. They are going to have to do a WAR glut of server and transfers, they don't really have much choice now.

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:08AM Daverator said

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Because the ToS (That legal document you had to agree too after paying for the game) says in as many words

"We (The Company) can do basically anything we want with the game and You (The Customer) only have the option to forfeit your account and game you purchased if you disagree with any action or aspect of the game or agreement."

But really it makes 0 sense, they can tell how many pre-orders they had, and should have been purchasing equipment THEN. Not just starting to mention 1 new server after a week of 8 hour queues. But really its not a big deal to me, I play wow and champions (and occasionally ddo). So if champions could manage to keep their server hamster fed I'd be happy.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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Anyone can write anything.

How about "By reading this post (I the writer) Now claim all ownership of you, your PC and any bases you may own. By reading to the end of this sentence you have agreed to this and waived all such rights" or some other such crap. So persons reading this: Do you think I know own you? :)

Not many people know for example that a EULA (in itself) is worthless in most places on account of you having to agree AFTER you buy it. It is to be taken into account, but just because someone says so does not mean it is enforceable from a legal perspective, no matter what some dick may write on a screen - or get his trade industry to try to lie about.

I'm a big fan of sensible server releases, but this is just comedy bad now. They could do with a little bit of a kick like a good legal test case.

Dunno if I can be bothered to be honest. I think I'd rather play LOTRO anyway. The actual PVP on Aion is so far away into leveling and the PVE so... 6 or 7 /10 I might not see it again anyway.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 2:27AM TheJackman said

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They do sound like good tips everyone that playing Aion will can take something from it.

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 8:37AM cray said

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Brooke Piley,

Not to single you out be you gotta stop calling crafting or gathering grinding. Fighting mobs isn't grinding either. Replace the word grinding with the actual task.

The word grinding means tedious boring task. Just stop using the word and tell us what you're actually doing.

Instead of typing "Actually, best results probably come from grinding 100% of the time."

Try typing "Actually, the best results probably come from battling huge amounts of mobs."

It's not a fair assessment when everything gets labeled as grinding, because what you think is a tedious boring task others might enjoy crafting, gathering, exploring, and even battling mobs.

Massively, and the rest of the MMO community needs to got off this usage of the word "grind" to describe everything, it's very apathetic term that has gone on far too long.

Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:37AM brookep said

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Here was my original quote in its entirety:

"For best results, you should probably spend about half your session questing and the other half grinding (not accounting for crafting, gathering, and playing the economy). Actually, best results probably come from grinding 100% of the time, but you want to keep your sanity, right?"

I consider grinding to setting yourself up in an area with lots of mobs and killing them over and over with little deviation. This is clearly different from questing (though questing is often just a disguised grind), crafting, gathering, and playing the economy.

Are you suggesting there is no such thing as grinding and that it is all just "playing the game?" The term "grinding" comes from the expression "nose to the grindstone," which means you're entirely focused on a single task. Therefore, "grinding" can be applied to many areas of an MMO.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:45PM (Unverified) said

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Your interpretation of a word is not my interpretation of a word. I understand the basis of your argument, but don't try and pass it as a universal truth. It's anything but.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:46PM (Unverified) said

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My comment was @ Cray, by the way. Just to be clear.
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