Crytek's CryEngine in UK classrooms

This is heavily flawed becuase if you teach people high end engines at college and they try to make thier own games after the graduate, their classes will be for nothing becuase the average joe cannot possibly afford CRYengine or Unreal Engine or 3dsmax or any of those tools.

They will have to seek out other cheaper alternatives and have to learn all over again anyways. So it's pointless to go to game design schools becuase I seriously doubt if they teach courses using open source engines and 3d editors.

So you are suggesting colleges teach cheaper alternatives so that when students graduate and apply for jobs in game development industry they can't get hired because their education is outdated.

Nobody is expecting students to start up a game development company right out of college. Even if it were expected, and the equipment, software was cheap. You still need capital (money) to create a new business regardless of what industry you're in.

I'm just saying that people who get out of college that are used to nothing but 3dsmax and unreal engine will be dissapointed when they start thier studio with thier own cash and can't get these tools and have to start all over again. NOT EVERYONE GETTING INTO THE GAMING INDUSTRY. LOLz.

In my course we studied Unreal Engine heavily and around ten percent of my year had jobs in the industry before we even graduated. Most who didn't get jobs weren't going to be starting their own company full stop, let alone using Blender and Ogre engine.

Wanting to teach university students to be entrepreneurs seems pretty stupid to me, but nonetheless plenty of startups are using middleware these days because it's how shit gets done.

Look, what we need is more indies on the scene and more unique titles and IPs. Not more Crysis or WoW clone games churned out by the Cryteks and Blizzards. Just like how bland the motion picture scene and the pop music scene is. More boring clones. Unis groom them for jobs at EA or Blizzard. Not to start thier own studios. Witch is the wrong course to take since it is very rare for you to even get a job at such companies becuase they have way too many applicants for the little amount of positions they do have.

CryEngine was the FarCry engine... not Crysis. Crysis was on CryEngine 2.

As someone who came out of college without the practical skills to go straight into studio work I cannot applaude this move enough. Bravo.

Learn the maths, learn more maths, and then do some more number work until you can spout the crap off the top of your head in conversation. 32bit floating decimal will not pull at a bar but will get you a job if you can talk someone through it and many will ask you face to face. It will impress more than all the 'fun' packages you can fit onto a CV template.

You can mod remixed cat down all you want but he/she has a painfully good point. You have been warned, not that I ever listened, and nor will you of course :)

This is a great move as universities DO teach the right skills even if some people think they just use basic software.

I'm at Derby University and i've been programming games using the GameBryo engine (Fallout 3), creating mods from scratch using UnrealEngine3 as well as programming with XNA.

This move is great for student who want to work with a top quality engine and it means it's much more accessible to more people.

Now i can use CryEngine2 at home and at Uni =D


@remixedcat: Buy a copy of Crysis or Crysis Warhead, voila! Sandbox2 Editor using CryEngine2, nothing stopping people making mods for it.

Happy to hear of this. Not only will Crytek get more folks used to working with their engine but students will be able to create much more impressive demo reels for their resumes.

Both side bring up good points

1. most Knowledge is useless fast

2. it is important to let the students at these engines

i will add a three
3. most schools still operate as if we are still in the industrial era not good

but i see a lot of this changing

1. more open source-ware
2. giving ware away for long term gains (which is what this is about)
3. the ability of the person to make there own game/mod/mmo on there own (case in point love mmo) not that people would do that

one things that does not seem to of changed is this the more you do the more you get. you can make games for xbox live i forgot what it is called but you can use it too build a arcade like game to publish to the site.

you get money for it if people buy it now that a test so by the time you live college you will have a book of games some of witch have made you some money. IF people do not sign you on it would be there lost your gain because you are still making money.

"... only the priciest universities ..."

It's worth pointing out here that in the UK the amount a university can charge for courses is regulated by the government, so for instance of my two local universities only one offers a games course ( http://wwwm.coventry.ac.uk/undergraduate/ugstudy/Pages/ugft_ComputerGames.aspx?itemID=304 ) and isn't generally considered a particularly great university, but would charge £3,225 per year for that course. The other, which is a top-10-in-the-country university, would also charge £3,225 if they offered an equivalent course ( http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/studentfunding/ugfees ).