Retcon changes in today's Champions Online patch

How about Retcon prices increase over time? Give new folks and Cryptic's new patches time to grow on everyone and just increase the prices every week or so.

So glad I canceled my preorder. It really does appear that the devs have no clear direction on what they want the game to be or where they want it to go. It really is unfortunate because I had such high hopes.

Oh well.

I think the retcons are still way too expensive.

but that reaches a main problem, if the changes are so vast you need to change your heroes concept at such a basic level just to play, then there is a fundamental flaw in them.

Hang on a sec, in the early days of CoH to respec you had to do one of the trials. You couldnt test powers out in CoH before you trained them. The powerhouse system is great, the cost to replace your last power is free as long as you dont leave the powerhouse, simple. If you've borked your character you have to pay, if the devs bork it during a patch a free respec/retcon should/usually is issued.

This is a good first step, for this particular issue. I think Cryptic is running up against a lot of people who just aren't used to the flexibility of a classless system (myself included!). I see the sense in not giving out free retcons to everyone, but I a lot of people would appreciate a significant reduction in cost.

It doesn't matter that I can reset my character all the way back to creation if I can't afford to do so with the resources (in-game currency) I have.

After the change yesterday to how the game plays, the FUN i had the day before and all through beta was gone. I could care less about this retcon crap, I want the fun gameplay I had before yesterday back. Now I can't even complete certain SOLO missions due to henchman and villians attack power being increased so much. Oh well.

I canceled my preorder as well, good thing I procrastinated on going to the store to get it. I'm just hoping this is a lesson for Cryptic for when Star Trek Online releases, they better not pull this crap on that game.

lol, such a hubub that people make wrong decisions about powers after day one. What freaking nonsense. Test and try out characters I say. My goodness what a buncha whiners ... I say do what CoH did, or put a lvl limit on when you can or cannot respec... like every 5 or so lvls. Man, no other game has the freedom that Cryptic has brought to the table. Does Aion, Wow, Lotro, or anyother game give ya a) a respec that is way to flexible like Chamipions b) have a team that caters to the fans every freaking day like Cryptic?

Give Cryptic the space they need and deserve.. so far, I've had a great time, enjoyed the world.. loved the humor, missions, character creations etc. Have there been frustrating time... sure.. but man, it's day 2 of the game.
Some people get caught up on so many things, are probably the same people that would feed a baby steak and cheese and friggin yell at them that they haven't crawled outside fast enough to take out the freakin garbage.

And yes... I need to switch to decaf. Thanks fer lettin me rant. ;)

Waiting for DCU Online!

I love Champions, problem is that retcon is set up really bad. They should stabalize all prices and make people able to choose the skills they want to unlearn insead of having to go back and reformat the entire character.

Cryptic's behavior is nothing short of their namesake. The power nerfs combined with the mob difficulty and damage increase leaves me believe that the following scenario happen. You have Jack or someone of equivalent importance looking at the metrics for Character leveling ratios and pushing a panic button. They call a meeting with the head of each dev team and ask them for a solution. Each team goes back to their people and implement changes to solve the problem. First Combat & Careers looks at it and decides, well players can kill monsters to quickly and are never in danger even from mobs 4 - 5 levels above them. So the solution cut down the effectiveness of defenses and lower damage output from the highest used powers. So meanwhile over on the other side of the building. The head of missions team is having a similar meeting. They decide that experience from missions is the problem. Since players can complete them faster than intended the best bet it to lower the XP and remove bonus XP for completing missions of a higher level. So both teams run their readfiles up to the internal server. The QA team looks at the changes verifies the changes are correct but most likely notes that both changes are bad and send them back as verfiied working. Meanwhile more stress is added and they decide to push the changes to live in a attempt to sort it out before launch.

In this scenario which I hope is correct, the whole issue is caused by two teams not communicating that they planned on fixing the problem and the internal server version was pushed without them releasing. The reason I hope this is the case is that they will fix the issue. This would also explain the reason allot of this stuff was missing from the patch notes.

I myself understand and accept the power changes for the most part, some of the numbers are really messed up at the moment. A level 10 rank 3 power that does less damage than a Level 3 Rank 1 tier 1 counterpart. Or the fact that Rank 3 invulnerable is only applying about 5% damage resistance on some characters. I like the increased mob XP and the mob difficulty but the mission experience needs to be fixed. They don't have enough content to cover the now glaring gaps that the XP Nerf has torn open.

Though as was brought up on the Champions forums, the addition of News Paper style missions or Player driven arc content would fit in and remove the bad spots in the XP curve.

I feel disgust for this company right now. All they would have to do to appease most of us is give us a free complete retcon since they they changed how much game mechanics worked.