I was actually just going to comment on this point, Hiro. You are absolutely correct!

It takes almost no effort to find hordes of bots and campers. Most of the bots I've found in my casual shopping and exploring were in fact obvious bots--ruthed accounts with generic names in sequential order (usually with numerals in their name). At more than a few stores, the bots were actually NAMED "bot123" etc.

So to cite that bots no longer exist as a prominent user hour accumulator is just plain silly.

I've not found anything in the Abuse Reports dialog that points to specific "bot/camper" violations. Torley alluded to bot usage as a reportable offense, but I'm not sure if that is official or just his personal perspective.

All the Lindens have done is drop them just enough so they can say "it's dropped" without actually doing what they said was policy... which would send the figure through the floor.

Are you that surprised that T is lying?

It's true, you can find traffic-gaming bots or campers (or both) inworld in only a few minutes.

Nadine: As far as I know, it's an offense, but not a reportable one.

I don't believe T's lying to us. I'm sure the policies have had an impact and that that impact is ongoing, even if the enforcement rate for them remains less than 100%. I don't interpret him to be saying that bots are completely eliminated from the figures, by any means.

Some of them seem to be out of there (though I can't figure out quite where from), and that *is* having an effect on the figures. I think the usage-band data speaks for that. Has it got a ways to go? Sure.

Ah but Tateru, you also denied Kate lied to us when she said "Come and talk with Jack and M Linden" and they never showed.

There is no doubt that the Lab have removed just a small number of bots, that small number has had a sizable effect on user hours and concurrent logins (their steadfast number in the past that the platform was popular) yet there are seriously so many more bots in world.

85% of logins over 300 hours a month using non-SL clients and this being a pretty good indicator? That is what 36.5 million bot hours?

4,156 man years of bot camping per quarter.

What incident was that?

The openspace rip off of last year. You claimed that Jack and Katt didn't lie that they were only doing what they were ordered to, forced to stretch the truth...

Yet Jack clearly said "You are using these in ways we don't allow (To live on)" and "You are running more scripts on them than we allow"

Katt said "Come and talk with M and Jack about your concerns" amongst other whoppers like "At no time were Kids banned from exhibiting" despite people like me having in their hands emails from Robin Linden saying that very thing. Again you defended her. Said she wasn't lying.

You called Katt one of the best communications managers around, yet she delighted in eating popcorn after she threw a dead rat in our bed to get her lulz.

I wouldn't attribute to deception what is explainable by ordinary error.