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Posted: Aug 9th 2009 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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I would've put EVE HQ on here personally. Sure its just a combination of many of the popular apps on here, but its really an all-in-one package. EVE Mon, EFT, POS Tracker, plus many other new applications not listed here. I got it when I first started EVE and have never questioned its usefulness.

Posted: Aug 9th 2009 7:44PM Brendan Drain said

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Yeah, I've used EVE HQ and it's very good as an all-rounder. If there were a #6 slot, I'd put EVE HQ in it but I prefer tools specifically designed for one purpose.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2009 10:20AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, I wouldv'e had EVE HQ on here too. The point of it being an all in one package is that you don't have to have 3 or 4 different apps all running at the same time. I'd like to hear the reasoning behind why you like having an individual app for each purpose Brendan.
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Posted: Aug 9th 2009 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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Eve posts are always interesting, I'd play if... I dunno
Beautiful game but while I played I didnt find people*
Therefore I fail.

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 12:54AM (Unverified) said

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Capsuleer doesn't have market order or research job info.

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 7:25AM Brendan Drain said

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My bad, I've corrected the article. Not being rich enough to afford an iPhone, I haven't been able to try it out.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2009 1:18AM (Unverified) said

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I honestly have spent more time playing EFT than I spent playing the actual game. It is a powerful tool, however I do find the interface a little non-intuitive sometimes.

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 2:16AM halfcaptain said

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i totally agree with you. EFT is a shitload of fun, but feels a little clunky and counter-intuitive. but we're playing EVE after all, so having intuitive interfaces isn't exactly something we should be used to.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2009 2:13AM halfcaptain said

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i would add EVE-Central's tools, specifically the 'market aggregator and trade finder.' if more people added their market dump data, this would be one of the most useful applications for haulers, traders and really anyone who wants to play the market. given that it's still undergoing some changes and doesn't have the high sheen of EVEmon and Capsuleer, i guess i understand its omission.

i'd also hasten to add that there is a price (in isk) for full functionality using EVE commander. while it's not an outrageous sum, with the suite of free tools available, it seems like a cash-grab. that is of course unless you'd like to check up on your skills and wallet at work.

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 7:52AM Brendan Drain said

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Personally, I've used EVE Central before and while the idea is great I found the information was often outdated and the trades it finds were usually already gone. It's good for rough price estimates in my experience and I'd have to agree with you that if more people provided their data dumps, it could be a phenomenal tool. If they could manage to automate that, even just for the trade hub regions, I think it'd be a lot better.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2009 1:30PM halfcaptain said

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you're right - if it were automated it'd be pretty much invaluable for anyone interested in playing the EVE market. often when using that tool i've found the information to be a little, ahem, late, but if you observe the date the data was posted in the far right column, you'll avoid the heartache of flying to a region for a great price only to miss it completely. hopefully eve-central will get more attention from the player-base and be encouraged to keep working at the market aggregator.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2009 4:33AM EdmundDante said

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What a frakken joke. This essay by Brendan Drano is a blatant misuse of online media to completely diss probably THE BEST Eve Online application there is available right now: EVE-HQ.

Whoever is the editor for this damn site should take a closer look at the integrity of Mr. Drano. That he then second-handedly comments that ya ... Eve HQ is good and I would have put sixth is IMO totally disingenuous Bullshit.

All one has to to do is spend one minute donwload Eve HQ and trying the app out for yourself and it BLOWS away almost every single app Drano lists in his top 5 (you gotta wonder why its top 5 instead of top 10)

This column by Drano sponsored by Massive really is one of the biggest turn-offs I've seen in a long time. Because it lacks integrity. Its very much like someone who decides to go to Washington D.C. and gets a tour guide, and the tour guide says - oh here's all the central monuments, and oh yes, the White House is #6.

Look, take a damn like at EveHQ. There is no frakken reason why it shouldn't be listed FIRST and FOREMOST.

Go Frak yourself Mr. Drano.


Posted: Aug 10th 2009 4:54AM (Unverified) said

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Calm down Jamenta. I've tried EveHQ about 5 times but just can't warm to it. Possibly the author feels the same way?

I've never tried Capsuleer (I don't own an iPhone) or POS tracker but I'd agree that the other three are far superior to EveHQ.

If you're so convinced that this is a conspiracy, why don't you provide some download statistics to back up your claims about the invincibility of EveHQ?

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 6:06AM (Unverified) said

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Aww poor jamenta, did someone’s favourite app not get included? There there dear, its ok. Have a little nap.

Evemon and EFT have been great for me as a new player, good article; I’ll have a poke at the other apps mentioned here.

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 6:26AM (Unverified) said

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No need to start cursing, but yes, EVE HQ needs to be on top spots of that list. I used EVEMon and EFT also myself for a very long time, but the database of EFT is outdated and not accurate anymore, EVE-HQ is.

Although EVE-HQ needs more learning and trying, you get the hang of it after some time and its by far mroe powerful then EVEMon and EFT together (using EVE-HQ myself for 3 weeks now and it replaced the other two above named apps).

You can for example read all your assets out into the programm, verify their market value, list them ordered by value or station where they are, then check if it is more profitable to sell, or reprocess them.

Also skill planning like EVEMon and Ship design (with a up to date database - which EFT dosnt have anymore) is more fluent and practicable then in EFT once you learned the differend way the programm approaches it.

Everyone should try out EVE-HQ, especially cause the EFT database is outdated, but also to benefit from quite some features neither EVEMon nor EFT have.

But ya, its less intuitive and you have a steeper learning curve ... well, like you have in EVE compared to other MMOs, but you get rewarded by more possibilities. Dosnt change the fact i really dont agree, nor like jamentas tone here.

my 0.02 isk,
mynx

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 7:34AM Brendan Drain said

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EFT recieves regular updates to keep the database current, you have to download the new version. The current version is 2.10.4, released as an update after the Apocrypha 1.2 patch.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2009 5:57PM EdmundDante said

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I indeed do think something stinks here. That EVE-HQ is not even mentioned is absurd and blatantly biased.

I refuse to believe the column was done out of ignorance or lack of awareness of the Eve HQ application. Maybe lack of interest perhaps, but to post "top 5" Eve applications and then leave out EVE HQ.

Baloney.

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 6:25PM EdmundDante said

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An excellent review & comparison of EVE-HQ on the Yarrbear Tales BLOG:

http://00sage00.wordpress.com/

Posted: Aug 10th 2009 7:29PM (Unverified) said

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I too like EveHQ and I would have put it in pace of Capsuleer since it's a smart-phone app (iPhone/iTouch only) where the other tools are PC based and available for everyone. Even my Mac friends have an old PC or vm Windows to run the apps.

Posted: Aug 11th 2009 2:52AM (Unverified) said

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hia. thanks for mentioning eve commander. i feel honored to be on this list!

one user commented on the article the fact that the full edition of eve commander does not come for free. this has the following two reasons:
- fewest things are truly free in this world - or is it worth it that apps like facebook are 'free', but sell your user and profiling data to the highest bidders on the backside? eve commander NOT being free is an additional ensurance for all subscribers that their sensitive data is absolutely safe with me.
- eve commander has grown a lot and takes up a lot of server resources (db-size for example 2.4 gig total) - they have to be paid for in some way. but be assured that my income from ec does even not remotely cover all real life expenses i have to offer this service to you.

cheerios, woddel

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