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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 8:09AM (Unverified) said

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I pre-order pretty much every MMO I want to be in. Exceptions include if I want to get them from a different territory (which means it can be infeasible). I think mostly I really like being able to say "Yeah, I was here at launch!"...

Unsurprisingly, I do now have a lot of MMOs I'm not playing....

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 8:26AM Pewpdaddy said

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I pre-ordered WAR... Needless to say another pre-order is not my near future =p ... Hoping to be able to get into a beta before some of the new titles launch without pre-ordering.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 8:28AM Muddleglum said

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I have been around for all of em, usually in the beta so I have a good idea before hand. But that said I have been dissapointed. But unlike others (and this can be said about a lot more than mmo's) I refuse to let bad experiences ruin my excitement for new things.

I pre-ordered the recent "disapointments" AoC and WAR, but I enjoyed my time in them for as long as it lasted. AoC's Tortage area blew me away, and WAR no matter what other people say isn't and wasn't ever a bad game. The only reason I stopped playing WAR was because I am sick of developers not recognizing population imbalances and taking steps to avoid them (I am an ex-Good Team member from EQ1's Sullon Zek server so I am ultra sensitive about population concerns on faction/team pvp games/servers).

Anyway AoC is actually somthing I am playing again and enjoying and I am seriously considering going back to WAR soon to check all the new things out there too.

Right now I am really looking forwards to TOR, Heros of Telara, And the game R.A. Salvatore and Todd McFarlane are working on. I go to the sites daily in hopes of learning somthing new.

No matter how many times I get burned I will never change. I like to get excited about things.

Posted: Jul 21st 2009 2:50AM ultimateq said

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"Go Go Good Team!" -Fansy, The Famous Bard.

I know exactly what you mean about population imbalances.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 8:30AM Jenks said

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If I don't preorder, I get the game at release. The only time worth playing an MMO for me is when it first comes out and the low level zones are bustling. Creating a character in a ghost town is depressing, even if you know after the grind there are plenty of people doing end game content.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 8:56AM Holgranth said

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I'm a jaded cynic that constantly rains on people's "(insert upcoming game here) (Lately The Old Republic) is going to be the next WoW except ten times better because (Insert last ten pieces of dev hype here) absolutely owns!" parades.

In my opinion:

The time to be mildly interested is when a dev starts releasing REAL ingame footage and starts actually showing off the game not just talking about what it is "Going" to be.

The time to be cautiously optimistic is when it is a studio like Bioware or Blizzard starts showing real footage and mechanics.

The time to get excited is when beta feedback has been coming in for about two weeks and most things are panning out as they were promised.

The time to get very excited and go buy it is between 2 weeks and 6 months (Depending on the game and how mush one can glean from the testers.) after release when things are running smoothly.

Having said that if I got the time I'll beta test stuff, but no I won't preorder unless I have an EXTREMELY good reason.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:09AM Tom in VA said

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The one and only time I ever preordered was for Burning Crusade -- and in that case the provider (Amazon) actually was taking longer to deliver the product than just buying it at the store, so I canceled the preorder.

Never again will I preorder a game, although I sometimes *will* purchase games really I want as soon as they are available for download. I did that with all of the GW campaigns and expansion, because (after trying out a free trial) I knew I would enjoy them.

Normally, however, I like to wait a bit after release (till the bugs get worked out) and then download expansions or new games.

Games I was interested in but glad I didn't preorder and/or buy include:
--Tabula Rasa
--Vanguard
--Age of Conan
--Warhammer Online
--Hellgate: London

Nowadays, I usually sift through player reviews for a few weeks once a game is released before making a purchase decision. I could you could say that I prefer to "post-order" my online games.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:12AM Tom in VA said

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Wish you could edit your typos here at Massively. :(

I meant to say in that last line: "I GUESS you could say that I prefer to "post-order" my online games.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:53AM (Unverified) said

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I don't pre-order. The little items and stuff you get (by the way, which is RMT to all those anti-RMT'ers that think they never participate in it! hehe) are not usually worth it.

I mean, I HAVE pre-ordered, but not usually. And the 3 month rule is a bit tough, I just make it the "Wait until the game is talked about being patched up and running" rule.

Beau

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:00AM (Unverified) said

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I try to avoid leaping on newly released MMOs - they're so much more stable/polished after a couple months. If the game is free I'll make an exception, but box price+sub is too costly to gamble on.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:03AM Wensbane said

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Jaded, yes, I suppose that's the right word to describe me these days.

I don't pre-order and I avoid all new MMOs for at least five/six months, or until the first significant update is out. Playing an MMO at release is just begging for trouble.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:04AM (Unverified) said

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Gee, let's see, I pre-ordered the CEs for AoC and WAR, so no, I don't think I'll be starting anymore MMO's from day one.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:04AM elocke said

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I usually don't preorder, but this year, with all the incentives being added into pre ordering, especially getting a chance to beta test the game before it launches( a great way to see if I even like the setting or what the game may offer), I have decided to start preordering.

BUT, I only preorder at a store like Gamestop, so that I can quickly go in and change my preorder to something else if the game I try is NOT living up to my expectations. Hence what happened recently with Aion. So glad I had a chance to play it before I blew money on it in September. So I switched my pre order over to Champions Online. Hopefully I won't have to switch that to some console game in September, heheh. Based on the vids, screens and info it is far more appealing to me anyway than Aion ever was. I only did the Aion pre order because of all the hype, which is NOT deserved, in my opinion.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:31AM Ninevah said

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I've pre-ordered several games over the last couple of years and in almost every instance been disappointed--either by the design, the execution, or the performance of the game. So, I've become fairly jaded because of that. There are a few out there that I'm really interested in, though. Take Aion, for example: It looks good. The word on the street is good. You can even preorder it and get into the Beta that way. I've even got credit at Amazon.com that I could use to preorder. But I don't think I will. I've just been burned too many times.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 12:45PM (Unverified) said

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I had been in the past, but so many disappointments lately, I'm done with jumping into MMO's at launch (unless I play the Beta and they are worth it). Too many just suck.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 12:55PM Belmondo said

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I shy away from pre-orders since I've heard horror stories of pre-orders being delayed on launch day (while a brick-and-mortar seller down the street has plenty). But I'm not yet jaded, and I look forward to the next big MMOs coming out and plan to buy the games during launch week, almost despite what the initial reviews are. It was thrilling to play WAR in the first couple weeks, because it was all new and there were so many other players around. I'm looking forward to experiencing that type of thrill again!

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 2:16PM Evy said

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I try to get into every MMORPG beta I come across. If I can't get in, I usually take a "wait and see" approach for a few weeks to see how others like it. I very rarely pre-order games unless I've been in their beta.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 3:23PM Nadril said

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I'll pre order (or buy the game on launch) if I'm interested in it. The thing is is that as big of a disappointment as the last 2 MMO launches I was involved in (AoC and WAR) was I probably still got my moneys worth out of them. AoC I actually had a few pretty fun moments and made some new friends and WAR was fun for a little bit, at least $50's worth.


The latest game I've preordered was Aion which, thankfully, doesn't seem like it will have any of the headaches induced like a lot of recent launch titles. Been playing for two Closed betas so far and everything has been great, so I'm getting genuinely excited about it now. It's nice not having to try and make up excuses for once why I think a game is worth buying.


As far as waiting goes I personally think that for the most part if you don't like a game on launch you aren't going to like it 6 months from them. I did try WAR and AoC again both a year (about) after their launch dates, using the win-back trials, and neither had me very interested at all. I could feel that WAR probably got a little bit of polish, and same with AoC, but they were just the same old stuff.

Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:15PM Saker said

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1 old pre-order disaster (long ago) was more then enough to teach me. This genre is so very well known for launching not-ready products I'll absolutely never do that again. Always wait till it's launched and listen to what's being said. It usually takes a few months till even a good game is actually in a decent working order.

Posted: Jul 21st 2009 4:27AM (Unverified) said

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I pre-ordered the Rage of the wookies expansion for SWG, only to have it go live with an entirely new system of play... needless to say SOE will never recieve my money again...

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