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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:11AM (Unverified) said

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I already beat WoW and let me tell you... my mom was absolutely thrilled!

...having sad that I agree with the article completely

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:21AM (Unverified) said

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What MMO has more subs currently? Or did you mean to say that eventually there will be one with more subs. I think WoW still dominates in money made + subs right now.

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 12:13PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know about subscriptions, but Runescape has more users I believe.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 1:06PM (Unverified) said

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There's quite a few MMO's with more players, and probably some overseas that western audiences don't care about that have made more money. But WoW is the subscription MMO that was king for so many years in the west, and so like the legacy of Mike Tyson, the name will live on in legend.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:22AM Kratos said

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I think WoW is just a household name now.

It's like Google. Even if a better search engine was to come along people still wouldn't leave Google behind.

It's not because they are attached to Google but its because Google is good enough to get the job done.

People will always opt for what is good enough. Thats why MP3 took over Audio CD's. It was obviously inferior but for most people it got the job done.

If Blizzard can take your money and provide you with entertainment then they are doing what you require of them and thats all that matters for most people.

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:27AM (Unverified) said

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The interesting thing about 'navel gazing' is that it is only interesting to the person staring into the depths of their bellybutton having 'very deep thoughts'.

I don't mean to insult you exactly - I am sure you are great and all that, but this post did not seem to have much of a point. It was not news, gossip, or even speculation. It might have been editorial - but not in an interesting or thought provoking way.

You basically just used extra words to say 'WoW is part of pop-culture".

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:42AM GRT said

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You beat me to it.

Must be a slow news day.

This is like the definition of a fluff piece.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:45AM (Unverified) said

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"You basically just used extra words to say 'WoW is part of pop-culture"."

And this is why it was called an 800lb gorilla at the end of the article. The author knows they are pointing out the obvious. Some times is just needs to be done. What is obvious to one person may not be obvious to another. Often, pointing out the obvious encourages or fosters discussions that result in substantive advances.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:31AM (Unverified) said

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What game has more subs then WoW?

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 3:27PM nomoredroids said

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What does that have to do with anything?
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:30AM (Unverified) said

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"because WoW has something that can't be copied or improved on."

I agree, WoW is beyond any improvement and what it has become SHOULD NOT at all be copied.

It is time for people to move on, leave this dead weight that is attached to the MMORPG genre alone and to start anew.

Posted: Jul 16th 2009 8:56PM (Unverified) said

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Wise words

"it is a far, far better rest that i go to than i have ever known"
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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WoW was a great stepping stone, as was EQ1. It has elements that cater to almost all players, though a graphics overhaul is much needed, take a look at the Elwyn Forest map sometime as an example.

It's a good game, it's fun, but it's run it's course much like the original EQ. That being said, it's not dead because there is nothing to replace it.

I like WoW, but the ride has been over for a while.

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:48AM Kamokazi said

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"There are games with arguably better graphics"

Wrong. There is no arguing whatsoever...there are games with better graphics :-p

While WoW has a nice artistic design, I have yet to meet anyone who lists the graphics as one of the reasons they play. They were dated four years ago when it launched. The only reason the graphics are not a downside is because they intelligently made them to not look realistic (kinda like TF2). The low poly counts are actually a part of the style.

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:51AM Celestian said

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I don't really consider WoW a classic (I wasn't into Warcraft before WoW either) but the article is bang on otherwise ;)

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 11:58AM (Unverified) said

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WoW will be with us for a very long time since most people love to reminisce about the first MMO they played. And since for millions of people good or bad WoW was the first MMO and will be talked about for many years to come. Hell people who didnt play it will talk about it for years somewhat like the cool hip I played UO thing has become since now at last count 10 million people have played it yet were 5 years old when it came out...

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 12:16PM (Unverified) said

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Oh, yeah? Well, that's, like, your opinion, man.

Seriously, if the thesis of your argument is that there is not argument -- that the case is closed, the debate over -- then you have no argument.

I would love to read why WoW, as an MMO icon, is unbeatable. I would love to read the discussion such an article would provoke. This, however, is a poor attempt.

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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Good thing I didn't say that. I'm not even saying that WoW is even *good*.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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WoW is a meme; it has become more than a phenomenally successful game. WoW gets credited as an influence on almost all games now (even when the true source of inspiration is probably EQ1). That's what happens when something really successful crosses over into being a culturally recognised icon.

The article suggests that better games have already been made. That's a bit like saying there are session musicians who are better than bonefide rock stars. It's true but irrelevant.

Posted: Jul 15th 2009 12:35PM (Unverified) said

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I keep coming back to WoW. Why?

I left for DDO. I played for 4 months and then I missed Wow. I missed the people, the massive amounts of content, the replayability. I left again for LOTRO. I only played that for a month or two. It was too much like DDO and didn't really do much more for me. It was entertaining for a bit at least. I left WoW for FF... Again, after I got over the newness, I found myself missing Azeroth. My high level characters. The people there. The new content.

I very recently left for CO Beta.

And guess what? Three months in I'm back in WoW. New Argent Tournament. New pets. New Bosses. New raids.

WoW is more than just the people. It's more than just familiar. WoW CONSTANTLY pushes in new things. This is not the game I played 4 years ago. Or 3. Or 2. It's not even the game I played last summer. WoW raises the bar because it REMAINS current.

I still like it. I will continue to still like it until someone does better. And no one has yet.

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