Most people wouldn't pay to play a game in beta state anyway. That is why they aren't charging for it.

Oh come on. I'm not arguing semantics here.

Their evaluations are of what the developers have provided of the game thus far, and 'when it does go live' it's not something enticing enough to hold their attention or be worh paying a monthly sub for.

Don't be stupid.

JP: That's what I've been hearing as well, which is a shame really.

My opinion of CoH was that it was a blast to make a character and fly around the city fighting crime... but that it lacked any depth, quickly devolved into a repetitive grind, and ultimately couldn't keep my interest for more than a few weeks. I have a feeling CO will be the same.

You really never should judge a game on the closed beta, I know everyone does it but it is not really a good judge of the game at launch. Open beta is a much better time to start the judging but even that is not prefect as it does not really give you any insight as to what the community will be like.

That said I am looking forward to Champions and I am happy they are not trying to force PVP into it in a way that does not fit. As it is now I am going to be looking for my PVP fix from other games but dabble in it in champions from time to time.

That's because pretty much every MMO out there charging a monthly fee isn't worth it. Subscriptions have to go, and if Champions launches using a subscription model, they'll just be stuck with low numbers in a few months (after that huge launch wave) and then will be wondering what went wrong.

Gotta stop with the subscriptions, it's just a dead/dying business model for gaming.

Battlefront Heroes launched, F2P game with RMT/microtransactions, over a million users now. It's the way to go. Sell box copies even, but don't try to charge a subscription fee, it's the path to failure.

Firebreak,

Come on, I hope you don't think some game altering patch to going to happen with CO. This is open beta now, the damn game is going to come out in 8 weeks or so. We have seen it with just about every game to date, what you see now is what you get at release.

Nothing more and a whole lot less.

Except that the game is not in open beta right now. Nice try though ;)