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Posted: Jun 29th 2009 6:10PM (Unverified) said

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O SNAP!

Posted: Jun 29th 2009 6:18PM MrGutts said

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I wish them luck with enforcing it.

Posted: Jun 29th 2009 6:32PM Bueno said

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That's crazy talk!

It might shut down alot of the bigger companies that do it, but yes It will still continue for sure.

Posted: Jun 29th 2009 6:57PM (Unverified) said

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I'll make a stronger statement than James: this will not be enforced until there is massive governmental protest from the international community, and then they will publicly scapegoat one or two minor players for the press. Two seconds later, business will return to normal.

China is very reluctant to restrict *any* sector of the economy, particularly one such as this that does vague, IP-type harm (versus lead contamination in children's toys, melamine in milk products, etc.). They, in my opinion, view this particular job as occupying a lot of individuals who might otherwise cause trouble (idle hands, Devil's toolbox).

The funny thing is that a lot of the gold farmers are double-dippers that are also on government assistance (which is very widespread and abused like a red-headed stepchild).

Posted: Jun 29th 2009 8:34PM (Unverified) said

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"We know you hate them... We know."

Really? Then who is buying all this virtual gold? Clearly plenty of people *don't hate them* enough to keep the gold farming companies in business. Like it or not, it's a service that a lot of people want. .And honestly, China is just shooting themselves in the foot over this. Why outlaw when you can heavily tax?

Posted: Jun 29th 2009 11:08PM (Unverified) said

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"Really? Then who is buying all this virtual gold?"

13 year olds with their mothers credit card.

"Clearly plenty of people *don't hate them* enough to keep the gold farming companies in business."

these are the same people that bitch about blizzard when their accounts get hacked by the same people they bought their harmless gold from. Clearly they are morons.


"Like it or not, it's a service that a lot of people want."

no one said the world isn't full of lazy mf'ers.

"And honestly, China is just shooting themselves in the foot over this. Why outlaw when you can heavily tax?"

oh i don't know. because it's a black market industry that is nearly impossible to tax.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 12:48AM (Unverified) said

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"13 year olds with their mothers credit card"

More stupid sterotypes.

It's pretty well documented that the vast majority of MMO players are in the 20 - 30 something range.

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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 12:28PM (Unverified) said

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"More stupid sterotypes.

It's pretty well documented that the vast majority of MMO players are in the 20 - 30 something range."

yes. but the majority of the idiots that buy gold are teenagers with the "i don't care nothing bad ever happens" mentality.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 12:29PM (Unverified) said

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"My feeling is that In many cases these gold farming shops are not selling out of China anymore. They've established pretty legit shops our here in the West and just "outsource" the farming to whoever can make it cheapest."

the point is. for the farming that is taking place in china. that gold that is farmed is turned into real world currency when the farmers are paid, and when the slave drivers that run the farms get paid for the gold they export to to shops based in the rest of the world.

that right there should be enough to shut gold farming sweat shops down. the only question is if regional government officials will enforce it if they are not already taking kickbacks from the gold farming operators.
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Posted: Jun 29th 2009 9:17PM RogueJedi86 said

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At least this will make it easier for American MMO companies to shut down gold sites. Just send a report to the Chinese government explaining how they have been selling virtual goods in their game(breaking Chinese law), perhaps give information on where they suspect the gold site is based, and hopefully China will deal with it after that. I have high hopes since I hate gold farmers so much.

Posted: Jun 30th 2009 12:10AM SgtBaker said

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Yeah, this will be interesting to follow.

My feeling is that In many cases these gold farming shops are not selling out of China anymore. They've established pretty legit shops our here in the West and just "outsource" the farming to whoever can make it cheapest.

So the sellers are usually in US or in Europe these days - and our legislation hasn't caught up with the Internet yet. Great to see China making progress though!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 1:44AM RogueJedi86 said

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Well everytime I see goldspam in wow, I look up the url's registration; they're always registered in China, not the US or anywhere else. Plus even the goldspam itself is in Engrish, so it's not just the farmers who're Chinese. I can't imagine rooms full of goldfarmers in America, even in the current economic times.
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Posted: Jun 29th 2009 9:48PM (Unverified) said

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Scum of the earth. I would rather they have some sort of public execution for those people along with outlawing it.

Posted: Jun 30th 2009 6:30AM Gaugamela said

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Yes, lets kill someone because he or she sells virtual gold in a videogame...
They're clearly destroying people's lifes there.
That's the greatest overreaction to this that i've seen.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:05AM (Unverified) said

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means nothing

Posted: Jun 29th 2009 11:55PM Lateris said

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Goooooo commmmmmunists~!!!

Posted: Jun 30th 2009 2:56AM (Unverified) said

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Generalizations and hate. That's most of what I see from the replies.

First off - farming gold is NOT ILLEGAL. Not in any way. Farming is just a process of maximizing your time and effort to earn the most amount of gold in the least amount of time. It is in the game design, if anything, it's the game developer's flaw.

Tell me, what is the difference between a guy who farms gold and gives it to his friend AND a guy who farms gold and sells it to someone else?

NOTHING.

It's only those who apply a "MORAL LAYER" and "EMOTIONS" into a game. A game. With set boundaries. Which GOLD FARMING DOES NOT GO OVER.

Think about it.

Posted: Jun 30th 2009 11:48AM (Unverified) said

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ok here are my 5 cent:

1. the difference is that most if not all EULAs definitely do not allow to sell ingame values for real money. so everyone doing this violates the terms of service, so its illeagal.

2. professional goldfarmers use bots and exploits to maximise the gold/item gain which massively disturbs the playing expierience of others.

3. the goldsellers spam the ingame channels of many a game via abusing of trial accounts with names like "efwfewrkh". everyone of us has seen bullshit (sorry for the bad language) like this, which is annoying people trying to enjoy the game.

4. if its not clear from the outset, yes i do not like gold sellers as they ruin games and consider any measures against them worth a try. its the same as with crime -> you will never eliminate it, but this does not prevent us from fighting it with all our energy. zero tolerance is the way to go ahead in my opinion.

PS: you dont need to SHOUT, because this does not make any positive impact on your claims.

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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:34PM cray said

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Markus,

Regardless what game is being played there are ethics or a spirit of the game's intention which players should respect. It doesn't matter if a player is selling gold or just plain ganking others for kicks. These actions are not part of the game or it's intention. There are many elelements that borne out of playing MMOs but neither of the two I've mention have no positive effects on games.

I can't see this happening in a World of Warcraft boardgame. Only reason players can gank for kicks or gold farm is because there's no one sitting next to you moderating your actions. MMOs are dependent on self-policing and game masters who can't watch everyone.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 8:48AM (Unverified) said

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They will just move away from china and set up shop elsewhere. I mean it not like they can operate from any where.

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