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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 8:42AM (Unverified) said

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How about neither? Considering that the Aion Community (here to fore known as GOBACKTOWOWYOUFRIGGINGCAREBEAR!! ) is shaping up to have more Asshats than Wicked Pictures has porn stars.

We all know Ncsoft will foster that...they always do.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 8:45AM Thac0 said

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pot/kettle >_
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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Are you a douchebag in real life, or do you just play one on the Internet?
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 8:55AM (Unverified) said

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I was planning on playing Asmodian from before CBT, and having now had the chance to level both Elyos and Asmodian now. I'll still be sticking with Asmodian, love the enviroment, and the idea they have had to work for everything they have atm, whereas the elyos have had everything from the start.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 9:43AM misterorff said

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Ditto. I also hate how freaking rude the Elyos NPCs are. The only polite character in the Elyos starting area is the drunk priest.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 9:02AM LaughingTarget said

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Going with neither. GameGuard games don't run on my system. Besides, even if it did, I'm 100% opposed to installing RootKits on my machine. Basically, I'm missing out on a potentially fun game over a highly invasive security scheme that doesn't work anyway.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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Ditto. They can fuck right off if they think I'm installing any of that shit on my system.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 12:10PM (Unverified) said

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agreed
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 2:32PM Anatidae said

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I might be willing to put up with lame security if I love a game, but I don't see what Aion is going to offer what I get from jumping around from WoW/WAR/EVE. Then when you look at the other MMOs coming out, the idea of rootkit makes me think that it is just better to pass.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 10:01AM HeavyTank said

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Elyos, don't like the look of the asmodians

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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I was going to roll Elyos but now that I have experienced both I am definitely going Asmodian. I just like their story better.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 10:35AM Naoki7 said

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I was thinking about going Asmodian, and leveled a character there first, but after getting to 10 and then switching to Elyos, I must say that Elyos definitely appealed to me more. The zones are much prettier obviously, but the quests are also more interesting. I also happen to like the Elyos wing design better than the Asmodian design, and with me having a slight wing fetish this is pretty much a deal breaker.

For Tutty!

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 11:57AM Cendres said

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Going Elyos because the guild is , but I do like the Asmodians as well. Generally though I prefer warm looking places and sunlight so I may have picked Elyos regardless.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 1:45PM (Unverified) said

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I plan on playing the side with moar desu, plz.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 2:32PM (Unverified) said

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Do you even understand what a "rootkit" is or are you just parroting some meme you heard elsewhere? If you'd like to educate yourself, I'd suggest starting with something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit

Gameguard isn't a rootkit, it doesn't compromise your system and doesn't try to hide the fact that it exists. "Spyware" is a more appropriate term, but even that is not 100% accurate. It serves the same anti-cheat purpose as WoW's Warden which in all likelihood you have had installed at some point. It sucks that your system has a conflict with it, but I'm sure by the end of the beta testing NCSoft will have worked out the bugs...it's in their own best interest to do so.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 3:08PM LaughingTarget said

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I know what a RootKit is. I also know how to hit a reply button and know that Wikipedia is not something worth using as a source of reference. GameGuard functions like a RootKit, it compromises your system on a basic level and hides its operations. This is how it identifies and intercepts cheat programs. By doing this, it interferes with legitimate operations, such as the API, and as insecure and porous as the program is (GameGuard is cracked within hours and some companies have banned entire nations from playing, like Vietnam, because of it), it leaves open a very convenient door for malware to take advantage of. I do not want ANY programs with that kind of access to computer.

GameGuard is a software version of leaving a key under the mat.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 3:09PM LaughingTarget said

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One more thing, the only way to fully uninstall GameGuard is to use RootKit scrubbers. That makes it a RootKit.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 3:10PM Sunlover said

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Finally, someone responds to the Gameguard issue with exactly what I've been thinking.

In case you play WoW, or have, and don't know about Warden, Blizzard's own anti-cheat system, run a quick Google search. Just type in 'WoW Warden'. You may be interested in what you discover regarding privacy and that particular program.

Here's a couple of quick quotes from Wikipedia:

"Warden uses API function calls to collect data on open programs on the user's computer and sends it back to Blizzard servers as hash values to be compared to those of known cheating programs. Privacy advocates consider the program to be spyware."

"The Electronic Frontier Foundation and other groups have labeled Warden as spyware. Blizzard has said that Warden does not gather any personally identifiable information about players other than the account being used. It also states that the data collected is only used for finding evidence of malicious programs and cheating."

At the most, it seems Gameguard is on the same level as Warden, if that. While I disagree with both programs, I trust both companies to do the right thing with the info they collect. If it turns out that they do not, I will be right there with the rest of us, demanding justice and protection to our right to privacy. Hopefully there will be other ways to defend against cheating in the future that do not involve resorting to the same means.

I will leave you with this thought, however: At least Gameguard makes no effort to hide itself, as you can plainly see it activate when you start up Aion or any other game that uses it. The same cannot be said for Blizzard's Warden- unless you had previously read or known it was there, or you have experience with the way programs run on computers and what signs to look for, you would never know it existed.

Thanks for bringing this up, Fester. Smart stuff.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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Way to stay on topic here guys. If you're not going to play either, then you don't have to comment.

I've been debating about this for a while. The asmodians look cooler but I'm worried that I'll be too depressed grinding my way through such a dark place. I do like looking at beautiful fantasy settings.

Can anyone comment on the asmodae homeland? It's dark, but the stars in one SS looked awesome. Is it really as bleak as it's made out to be?

Posted: Jun 23rd 2009 6:38PM TheRealStupid said

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The quests in Asmodia seem to be more "westernized", maybe because the chaps at NC have had longer to work on them. Having said that, the "feel" of the Elyos side appeals to me more. I get the vibe that the Elyos aren't all goodness and happiness in their sunlit and that dichotomy between a pretty shell that harbors a very malevolent center is oddly compelling. Maybe that says more about me than anything, but there you have it!
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