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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:35AM Halldorr said

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Ha nice, would be interesting to see how many are paid users now. I paid for a month but canceled after.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:37AM Snow Leopard said

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Yeah, I wonder how many of those accounts are people logging in for two minutes and saying “Fairies? Ok, I’m out.”
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:56AM ultimateq said

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I still play it. ^_^

I have nothing better to do. Currently there are no released MMO's that interest me. My old love EQ has become a tired old dog, and everything else feels like a clone of each other.

So until Mortal, Star Trek or MAYBE The Old Republic come out, I probably won't play anything non-casual.


If someone logged in and saw fairies/pixies then left the game based on that. Well, it's their loss.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:42AM (Unverified) said

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Not to piss in the cheerios, but I just can't wrap my head around how F2P games make claims of success, by having that many people DL a game.

That's not active players. I mean, I DL an uninstall about 1 F2P game a week. I hope it'll be fun. It's usually not, and I uninstall in about 1-2 days. I count in the 1 mil, even though I have no intentions of playing it ever again?

It's celebrating mediocrity IMO. It's like McDonalds giving away free burgers and then claiming a huge success b/c they served over a billion people in one day. Of course you did! It was free! So one billion got their free burger and dipped out. BFD.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 4:30PM Holgranth said

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Yea 3 million people downloading is a sign of good marketing.


Three million people subcribing is a sign of good gameplay. Lets get the important numbers here fellas.....
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:44AM Scopique said

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It's a numbers game, so that 3M value is how many people on the books, not necessarily active.

It's the same way WoW get's their numbers.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:04PM TheJackman said

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WoW's Numbers are paying costumers every one that got there account active and payed for. no game time and trails are not counted.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:05PM Halldorr said

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Pretty sure WoW has been giving bs numbers for a couple of years now.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:23PM Myria said

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Ummm, no, they haven't. WoW's numbers can generally be found in SEC filings and shareholder documents. These are legal documents, falsifying information on them is actionable in both civil and criminal court. No one is going to risk being sued into the poorhouse and then going to jail just to inflate an MMOs numbers a tad.

If it's a press release, you can be sure it's a lie.

If it's a legal document, you can be sure it's at least close enough to the truth to be defensible in a court of law.

Whatever Blizzard, Vivendi, and WoW's flaws, and they are legion, transparency and believability where their subscriber numbers are concerned are not among them.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:02PM TheJackman said

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In other news Sony's Everquest/Everquest 2 servers getting lots of lag many people are quieting over it.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:38PM ultimateq said

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Troll much?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:28PM Grumms said

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Actually, Jack, their numbers aren't ACTIVE people. It's everyone.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:07PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, Weile, according to Blizzard's press release, its subscribers which is what Jack said. So not everyone, paying customers.

Though you are correct, they may not be active. I still have my subscription open but have not logged in for almost 3 weeks.

http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/081121.html
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:40PM Pingles said

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I'd be interested to hear how many other F2P games have hit those numbers.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:42PM (Unverified) said

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1) It's only REGISTERED users, not actual players. I get their emails and they tell me that I helped them, but I've never even downloaded the game, yet alone played it. So those numbers are very misleading, as I'd hardly count myself, and probably many others, as players. Registered user is much different than active players.

2) How many of those transfer into actual money? This is important. I hope it's enough, although I doubt they'll ever tell, to get other companies to move away from subscription to a alternative business model.

3) What if Blizzard released their registered user information? That would be all people who have ever created an account. Basically all accounts, not just active one's, but all accounts for all time. That would be the same as what Free Realms keeps bragging about, and I somehow feel that WoW's registered user numbers would make those look pathetic. It would be over a hundred million.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 2:00PM (Unverified) said

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ScytheNoire you are lying plain and simple SOE is has said time and time again (they have to keep repeating it to the SWG Vets and SOE haters) that the only numbers they count are the people who have downloaded the Free Realms client and have created a character. Just because a station account list FreeRealms as active doesn't mean that they are counting them...if they were the FreeRealms would have well over three million because there are a hell of a lot more Station accounts than a paltry 3 mil.

It's common sense dude
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 2:06PM CCon99 said

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I get those annoying emails as well, I think if you were a Station Pass subscriber (because you're technically subscribing to all of their games) you automatically get flagged as a FR player. My account is flagged active and I get the emails from them, but I've never downloaded, registered, or played the game.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 2:11PM (Unverified) said

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Wolfsterne, I am not lying, and rather insulted you accused me of it. I registered for Free Realms back in the beta, but have never created a character, never downloaded the game, never played it. Yet, I get those emails. I also have never had a Station Pass, as I have not owned an SOE game since EverQuest, before they had the Station Pass.

So once again, I claim that they are counting REGISTERED USERS, which I am part of, as I did register an account. But I have never logged in and any member of SOE can see that I haven't.

Accusing me of lying though is just pathetic.

Posted: Jun 12th 2009 2:57PM Pingles said

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Actually, the company rep has said several times that the numbers are for folks who have created a player.

I suppose we could assume HE is lying but I think the safer bet is that you are misinformed.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 3:52PM (Unverified) said

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Well, then they are sending me emails thanking me for my participation for no good reason, because I've never played. Their emails are wrong then.
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