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Posted: Apr 26th 2009 8:28PM Ghen said

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Humor the populace, and talk seriously one on one with everyone involved with the drama. This is the best way to resolve it as a guild leader. You can't make people agree, but you can make them less angry. Always keep a level head and don't joke around with people in these one on one chats. keep it very serious, show them you are concerned about their feelings. If all goes well they will either be cordial in public or someone will depart the guild on amicable terms.

Meanwhile, keep the rest of the guild happy and switch the subject. Let people know that you're on the case and handling everything so they don't have to. If they ask about details tell them honestly and privately without adding any bias. They will find out eventually if they're asking now.

Posted: Apr 26th 2009 8:29PM Ghen said

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and I love guildwatch too :P
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Posted: Apr 26th 2009 9:02PM (Unverified) said

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When my guild(s) stop raiding seriously, as in, not even progressively wiping- I pick up and leave.

But I just recently decided to quit them all together, call it a resolution.

It does kinda show how much I fail at it considering this post is on an MMO news site :P

But apparently I dont have anything else to read atm, so enjoy it Massively.com
I have been playing mmo's for almost 9 years.

Posted: Apr 27th 2009 4:02AM Russell Clarke said

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People need to remember it's only a game. If you take it too seriously, you're always going to end up blowing a fuse. Perhaps a good life lesson there too?

Posted: Apr 27th 2009 7:09AM Minofan said

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I don't take MMOs the appropriate level of 'seriously' required to fit into guilds - specifically I only want to do stuff I actually WANT to do when I'm playing a game - so I stopped joining guilds a long time ago.

The only guilds I belong to - and am interested in - are solo ones or duo guilds with my brother.

With a few exceptions of course, I wouldn't say it is dramas particularly that have driven me away though; it's simply that no matter how pleasant the company, I don't spend my gaming time unfunly.

Posted: Apr 27th 2009 9:17PM (Unverified) said

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We ran our raid guild as a 4-way balance of power amongst 4 officers. We had binds on vent to just talk amongst the 4 of us and always presented a united front on any topic; which quiets down a lot of questioning of leadership decisions, particularly loot & raidspot decisions.

It also helped to have a wealth of talent to draw from where you have around 120% of the population online that you actually need to raid, this encourages people to correctly execute fight mechanics because you have no qualms about subbing them.

Assigning spots based on player ability; not gear, seniority, friendships, synergy, or any other BS ppl may think is important. You should pick the player for his results, not who's playing him.

After picking the best players then everything is usually rainbows and sunshine and you'll just get the usual whines about loot and occasionally reiterate that not everyone can get every piece of gear the first time it drops.

We also didn't allow meters to be posted during a raid except when we asked for them and usually that was for a death recap to see what happened to someone (usually a tank). That cuts out a lot of egos and helps people focus more on killing the boss than ZOMG NUMBERS.

The only bit of drama we ran across was a few members got offended by some guys saying "n*gga" over vent in conversation; because they listened to a Flo-Rida album and thus now think they're from the streets instead of living in their parent's suburban home etc. and they wanted to blow it up on the forums to oust our guild as "racist". We made a couple posts in the thread about a scheduled cross burning etc. and locked out our members from responding and went on with our business as usual.

Pointing out how ridiculous the situation is, combined with some comments about internet white knighthood, followed by a return to normalcy is the antidote to drama.

Posted: Jul 9th 2009 6:37PM (Unverified) said

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I quit WoW just before frozen throne ( try it :P ), but was in one of the top raiding guilds on teh server and we never ran into any dramatical personal problems at all, due to the fact that none of us were ever even interacting on that level - Raids were a totally hush affair, lucky if someone said something once in 20 mins over vent ( in the end most people stopped using it all together ).

Everyone knew exactly what/when/how to do whatever required of them, raids arent exactly designed to be unique experiences - just play the numbers:)

Just dont join a guild with people playing WoW for social reasons - oddly enough i find playing with people that dont speak the same language as each other works out the best, shure it was lonely with hours of quiet in SwP but people rarely messed up and half the raid wouldnt have been able to insult the others even if they cared too :)

I guess that might seem like it defys the point in playing WoW at all, but lets face it - the majority of high end players are able to play the dps/tank/heal role perfectly in any raid and are only limited by the fact they can only really play as one character at once, i know it sounds bigheaded but theirs plenty of times i wished their was just 24 other mes in the guild then everything would always go fine:)

Always tempted to go back to wow for lich king but the thought of endless hours spent getting incrementaly better gear over and over forever is depressing, i quit with my 'best' char (pally) having full bt/hs/swp tank/dps/heal gear to the point where their was nothing in SwP that i actually needed to loot, guess its all worthless scrap now :)

- David Armitage

Posted: Jul 21st 2009 6:30AM (Unverified) said

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It is very hard to manage relationship conflict due to lack of knowledge, conversational skills and immatureness. All these things are necessary for relationship conflict management. We have to take care of all the little things which will turn in to most aggressive talks and conflicts and finally results in to breakup and divorce. When your spouse gets angry then you have to remain calm so that your partner forced to think that you still love and want him. And always remain try to be decent during conversation whether your are fighting or discussing something. And give chance to your partner to express his/her needs and desires from you. It will generate a trustworthy bond between both of the partners.
http://www.marriage-counselors.net/couples-problems/Marriage-Relationship-Conflict-Management.htm

Posted: Jul 21st 2009 6:27AM (Unverified) said

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It is very hard to manage relationship conflict due to lack of knowledge, conversational skills and immatureness. All these things are necessary for relationship conflict management. We have to take care of all the little things which will turn in to most aggressive talks and conflicts and finally results in to breakup and divorce. When your spouse gets angry then you have to remain calm so that your partner forced to think that you still love and want him. And always remain try to be decent during conversation whether your are fighting or discussing something. And give chance to your partner to express his/her needs and desires from you. It will generate a trustworthy bond between both of the partners.
http://www.marriage-counselors.net/couples-problems/Marriage-Relationship-Conflict-Management.htm

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