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Posted: Apr 15th 2009 5:23PM Graill440 said

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The pork in that article could have all been cut away. The short answer is in your last sentence, which explains it all, weak minds. (This covers a myriad of gamer problems for those dwelling on the term "weak")

Posted: Apr 15th 2009 5:36PM postman said

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i'm sorry, im not usually critical of the articles themselves, more the topic, but this kind of a waste of space. all mmo's are this way. the hardcore power gamers rush rush rush to endgame then get bored.

find me a game where there wasn't a group of players that are burned after the first month and ill call you a liar.

Posted: Apr 15th 2009 5:40PM Mr Angry said

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EVE Online
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Posted: Apr 15th 2009 5:40PM postman said

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Posted: Apr 15th 2009 6:07PM (Unverified) said

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Please do explain that mentality of "rushing to endgame" on a sandbox MMO like Darkfall.

Do you know what kind of endgame Darkfall has?
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Posted: Apr 15th 2009 11:33PM (Unverified) said

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It's not end game really, its "Max Abilities/Stats". Darkfall also has problems with finding an area to do pve in, since most of the pve areas are full of farmers/griefers.
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Posted: Apr 17th 2009 9:05AM postman said

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@ABRaquel: this isnt my first run around the block. when i talk end game im talking reaching the point in your skill level that you dont need to progress any farther, so its the perception of the player when they reach endgame. DF is a sandbox. i know this, i play everyday.

and i am correct. the group of players that did nothing but power grinded there way to max skills etc in the first few weeks of the game are getting bored. i stick by my original statement, this is a wasted article. people get burned out after the first month of a new MMO. power gamers are that way, especially the ones that havent found their niche in the MMO world and are constantly searching for that new thing that may be the next best game.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2009 2:08AM Boulderbolg said

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I have to agree with you. As a "power gamer", the only game that hasn't gotten me burnt in a month since I played DAoC as a young 20's something is A Tale in the Desert, but atitd is not a game for everyone. I must admit that I miss my WAR battlegrounds... I was so hyped for that game, and we all know what happened with that. I am just too old now to fall for hype for games like Darkfall any more.
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Posted: Apr 15th 2009 6:09PM Temko said

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i get my ass handed to me daily in darkfall by players that make my "uber" pvp seem like a 1 year old trying a marathon.

then again... i have 70% of the enchanting recipes in existence. to my knowledge the single largest collection of recipes.... to each their own ;)

Posted: Apr 15th 2009 6:32PM (Unverified) said

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Please stay with darkfall! Give it time it will get better!....and barrens chat has been nearly gone lately

Posted: Apr 15th 2009 8:16PM Holgranth said

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Its missing one key critical point the guy is one of the many fanbots that mistake lack of content/lack of structure for "Sandbox"

As somone said on forumfall there really is nothing much to do in Darkfall that dosen't involve PvP or grinding. The sandbox has a THIN layer of sand at best.

Getting skills = grind, city building = grind, ship building = grind, pve = grind, crafting = grind. Everything else is pvp.......

Besides that hes right a lot of people are realising WHY there arn't a whole bunch of full loot ffa pvp mmos out there. Its NOT fun to be one of the nine that don't have the skills/gear/twitch/ping/mods/hacks and getting sacked by the one out of ten that has the right combination of those.

There is a reason you get stuck in a level origntated BG in WoW or WAR. There is a reason fps/rts games have ranking online. People LIKE semi fair fights even if they forget it and dream of always having the advantage.

Posted: Apr 15th 2009 8:43PM (Unverified) said

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Again, due respect to Syncaine, but why is Massively covering his blogged observations on Darkfall like its newsworthy? It's not like he's collected a dataset or presented anything factual.

His theories are interesting if somewhat intentionally provocative, and I read his blog fairly regularly, but come on. At core he's just a fan shilling for Darkfall. Can't Massively make up its own mind on the game?

Posted: Apr 15th 2009 10:17PM (Unverified) said

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While I agree blogged convos are not really worth a news site, but I have noticed the same problem. When I joined 2 weeks ago, I had a lot of fun, killing goblins, getting killed, running around. The thrill.

But once I joined my clan, and started paying attention to the politics, I was already getting bored, lol. I just wanna go out and chop and mine and dodge PKs, but I am not with the Hyperion Alliance. I cannot imagine living in an area where roaming PKs are not a constant threat.

People just have to carve out what they like to do in game. I may eventually go back to my newb town. more action there.

Posted: Apr 16th 2009 12:11AM Nadril said

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It does sound like a problem, that is, clans creating such large alliances that the game doesn't become any fun. I think some people are more interested in just never "losing" and in turn sacrifice any danger by joining such a huge alliance. Of course it isn't a help that the game does have a huge lack of content, which like Holgar said I always find funny because people think no content = sandbox.

Posted: Apr 16th 2009 12:50AM cray said

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I suppose Adventurine could put a cap on a guild's capacity a well as how many or how long an alliance can lasts.

Guilds could have a capacity of 100 players and for each member their alliances last 1 day. So that's 100 days of peace with whomever they choose to be allied with. The alliance can be renewed after 200 days of non-peace relations.

Just thought I'd throw that idea out there...
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Posted: Apr 16th 2009 2:08AM Angelworks said

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@cray

Wouldn't be much of a sandbox if AV came by and kicked over your sandcastle once in a while.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2009 5:40AM J Brad Hicks said

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Where on earth do all of these developers keep finding investors willing to put up millions of dollars to learn the same stupid lesson over and over and over again? The people who funded Darkfall would have had a better chance of getting their money back if they'd given it to Bernie Madoff. And that should have been obvious, because the industry has been over this same, tired, ground time after time.

Posted: Apr 16th 2009 5:59AM (Unverified) said

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I'd say it goes something along the lines of this:

Naive Potential Investor: "So whats this 'game' thing about?"
Devious Developer: "Well it's a MMO - here look at this one as an example"
>>shows WoW stats>slides sunnies down over eyes and drives off to beach house in an Audi
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Posted: Apr 16th 2009 6:00AM (Unverified) said

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**that was weird - trying again**
I'd say it goes something along the lines of this:

Naive Potential Investor: "So whats this 'game' thing about?"
Devious Developer: "Well it's a MMO - here look at this one as an example"
>>shows WoW stats>drives off to beach house in an Audi
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Posted: Apr 16th 2009 6:01AM (Unverified) said

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**what the??**
I'd say it goes something along the lines of this:

Naive Potential Investor: "So whats this 'game' thing about?"
Devious Developer: "Well it's a MMO - here look at this one as an example"
>>shows WoW stats
Devious Developer: "So as you can see - there's a buttload of money to be made!"
Naive Potential Investor: "Where do I sign for an MMO money factory!?"

18 months later..

Devious Developer to Investor : "Yeh - totally the publisher's fault there's no subs - sorry you didn't make your ROI but hey that's the risk right?"
>>drives off to beach house in an Audi
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