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Posted: Feb 17th 2009 5:40PM Nadril said

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So much for all the doom and gloom that was being put out in the last blog post comments.

Posted: Feb 17th 2009 5:51PM Mr Angry said

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Just because SOE quite rightly got torn a new one in the other thread, doesn't mean that player concerns can be dismissed in such a way?

Why the hell didn't they release this disclaimer first, to settle the community? I don't know who is running the show there, I suspect a lot of individuals are all doing their own thing, no consistency, no single voice. It seems that Smed is only good for photo ops with the Antonia Bayle models or talking about forthcoming announcements.

I don't know, but gender profiling is account specific, and it's something that was reported on, but that seems to be happening, which contradicts SOE's initial statement.

Can SOE confirm that player age was not used in this analysis too, as I simply don't believe they would exclude this key factor from player behaviour?

The statement made is vague and doesn't cover the reality of the situation. Misinformation, where just being straight talking here is required.

Whatever they have said here, it's about trust, and people just don't have that with SOE. NGE? Station Cash, the list is getting longer.

Despite given every assurance about personal info, they have categorically failed to outline how all this benefits us as customers. They needed to lead with this, rather than go 'big brother on our ass' in news story, then expect folks to settle down.

Another poor PR exercise SOE, get your ducks in a row.

Posted: Feb 17th 2009 7:22PM venekor said

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Would be nice to be ASKED like say the Steam Survey or MSN Messenger where a window pops up, rather than it being hidden in the EULA.

Posted: Feb 17th 2009 7:23PM Interitus said

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I hope everyone feels throughly stupid for freaking out.

People like Mr. Angry I simply ignore they've made their mind up long ago, they just look for any excuse to whine some more.

Posted: Feb 17th 2009 7:59PM (Unverified) said

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I'm going to have to call BS on SOE:

(From the original source)
"Mixing in the demographic information produced a few surprises. Gender turned out to be a negative influence on interactions: even after their low numbers were taken into account, female players avoided interacting with each other. Time zones had some influence; players in the same time zone were 1.25 times more likely to partner than players even one time zone apart.

But distance had a much larger effect; players within 10 kilometers of each other were five times more likely to interact. Contractor concluded that, for the typical player, the game simply offered a way of continuing their real-world social interactions in a virtual setting."

If all Personally Identifiable Information was "scrubbed" as they say, then where are the researchers quoted in the article getting the location information from? SOE has a history of messing up and using some smooth PR moves and typically some vague wording to calm everyone down after the fact. There is no reason to believe wholeheartedly what they say.

Oh, and Mr. Angry...I highly doubt any of this was meant to benefit the customers. The researchers mentioned their experience in analyzing customer churn...so basically SOE is looking at ways to keep customers around.

Posted: Feb 17th 2009 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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I may have spoken too soon. Below is the actual study and it appears that the vast majority of the information was taken from 7,000 survey participants (which took place around 2 years ago or so) and then they compared it with the stats/logs that they were given.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/121394419/HTMLSTART

Posted: Feb 18th 2009 12:13AM Pingles said

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That's okay, the folks who said they cancelled their accounts didn't REALLY cancel their accounts. They just like to say that.

And if you don't think I'm telling the truth THEN I'M CANCELLING MY ACCOUNT!

Posted: Feb 18th 2009 5:00AM venekor said

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Who subscribes upto SOE games anyways? They give a veteran trial every other month.
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 11:32AM (Unverified) said

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Someone is lying here.

"But distance had a much larger effect; players within 10 kilometers of each other were five times more likely to interact. Contractor concluded that, for the typical player, the game simply offered a way of continuing their real-world social interactions in a virtual setting."

You can't make conclusions like above without personal information.

Posted: Feb 18th 2009 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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Someone is lying here:

"But distance had a much larger effect; players within 10 kilometers of each other were five times more likely to interact. Contractor concluded that, for the typical player, the game simply offered a way of continuing their real-world social interactions in a virtual setting."

You can't have that info without identifiable information.

Posted: Feb 18th 2009 11:17PM Pigeonko said

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I think that stuff came from the survey two years ago. I don't remember all of the stuff on that survey though. :/
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 7:53PM (Unverified) said

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Who cares really? This type of information is being collected and sold everywhere from your local supermarket via shopers club card to Starbucks to gas stations to banks, credit cards and so on...I am more concerned about what information is given out by my bank and credit card company information that really can hurt me then by someone I have a gaming account with doing something I do for fun......for Gods sake people get real...the only people that I.M.H.O. will get upset are people that have something to hide such as sexual predators, or adulterers or the like..nobody else has any reason to be freaked out over this. This shows again how people are taking a simple game..something that has NOTHING to do with real live..and take it far to serious. Go out and get a life, have a social life, meet real friends and experience life as it should be experienced ..not from behind a keyboard but real...and by doing this be also aware of the million and one way the bussineses around you collecting data on any move you are making..heck, the fact that I am typing this right now will probably be part of the data sold to some research institute or ad companie sometime in the future..Realize what is going on in this world and live with it or drop out, forget computers and our whole interconnect world ,buy a piece of property far away from everyone and stick you head into the sand.

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