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Posted: Feb 5th 2009 11:35PM Holgranth said

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Ooooh the fallout from this will last months at least and decades at most....

Posted: Feb 5th 2009 11:59PM Dalrint said

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Okay, so, if the game has all of this intrigue and excitement, how come when I tried it, all it seemed to be was boring?

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 12:15AM Holgranth said

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Because you wern't a high ranking (No life) member of a high power (Greedy basterds) corp :)

Trust me even if you found EVE boring the politics and drama the game creates are often 100% undiluted win served with a side of awsome with just a touch of hilarity.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 9:21PM Firebreak said

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You did it wrong?

In all seriousness you have to get out of empire to really have fun in EVE. Sitting in an EVE starter corp in empire is about as boring as it gets. However joining a PVP corp in 0.0 or low sec is a ton of fun.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 4:40AM Graill440 said

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Because with "lord of the flies" gameplay and nothing you can do the perps in this situation of course it is naturally boring. With the exception to those that think no consequence in any form is really exciting......lets you right in on the basement level demographic that plays EVE.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 12:27AM (Unverified) said

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I couldnt play this game unless I had NO-OTHER mmo's to play.

But I love watching the videos, reading about it.
If only I wasnt so poor i'd have an account and just train skills for three months and THEN play.

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 9:17AM (Unverified) said

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Heh, it takes way more than 3 months to train up to that level. But i suppose you could still mix it up in that time. I'm 4 months in, I like Empire, but then again, my skills are all over the place.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 2:21AM koehler83 said

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This whole situation has done nothing more than make me realize that have absolutely no comprehension of EVE online.. and I even played it briefly...

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 4:55AM (Unverified) said

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To put this into a perspective the above comments may understand:
Jeff Kaplan reveals himself to be an employee of Mythic, deletes all WoW accounts and sells the info to the russian mafia.

If you didnt do pre-pc gaming, or started at WoW gen mmo's, EvE is probably somewhere you cant get to, sorry.

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 6:50AM (Unverified) said

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I think the above comments about accesibility are fairly short sighted, of MMOs in general but also of Eve particularly.

In Eve (as in most decent MMOs) any PvP is significantly more fun than PvE, it forces you to interact with the game and with other players in a much deeper and more enjoyable way.

To access PvP aspects of Eve you have options.

The general path is to get recruited (fairly easy, corps always want to recruit, participation is everything) then access some fairly quick skills that allow you to take part in PvP for that corp in a specific special role suited to young characters (the classic role here is 'tackler' which is a ship which prevents other ships fleeing combat, the skills are easy to get and the equipment is cheap).

That's the typical first PvP step but recently (last couple of years) several corps have appeared which offer more specific noob PvP training. These corps will specifically recruit young characters (usually in Empire space through random chat), help them out a bit with getting some basic cheap ships, give them advice on fittings etc. and then organise fights with varying levels of supervision, rules, etc. This sort of thing is really good to see, the motivation for the corps is that strong members are generally those who enjoy the company of their fellow members, not just those whose characters match the corps requirements.

Finally, beyond simply PvP it's true that there's also this higher level of alliance politics which, obviously, you need to contribute significant time to access, not for most people of course, but then, as with everything, you get out what you put in.

The point is, it really isn't a question of all or nothing, and the Eve learning curve really isn't as bad as people say. These days loads of corporations exist almost entirely to soften that curve by introducing new players to PvP, making low-security space accessible, etc. I would suggest that anyone who played the game for a few hours and came away with the impression of an entirely elitist, basement demographic world, probably didn't actually try talking to anybody in game to find out what the possibilities are.

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 7:44AM (Unverified) said

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This has repercussions across the entire universe of EVE. I predict that Tech 2 prices will spike as a growth in demand due to more fighting over BoB's space and a drop in supply due to BoB's demise ripple through the economy. Even an Empire Lurking carebear could make a killing in this environment if they do it right.

This whole scenario is why I love EVE and believe it to be the future of MMO gaming. There is nothing else like it. Once you get past the really scary learning curve and start interacting with real people, it is probably the most rewarding MMO currently on the market.

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 8:08AM Wgraves said

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if anyone needs a corp let me know... im a long time massively reader and about a 15 month eve player.

http://splu.guildlaunch.com/

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 12:48PM (Unverified) said

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Where most MMOs are pillow fights with chuckles and cookies afterwards, EVE Online is a cage fight. Not everyone likes it in the cage.

Posted: Feb 7th 2009 6:19PM (Unverified) said

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This is the key. Also, if too many people play Eve it will dilute the IQ pool, so STOP staying nice things, and tell them to go play SWG or WOW or something else.

Leave Eve for us Brainiacs...

Eve is Boring. Play something else. PLEASE!

Aramis Rosicrux
Alachene/Everyshore/Gallente/Eve
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 2:22PM Rive said

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Wow, thats crazy. This makes me want to give EVE a try.

Posted: Feb 6th 2009 6:05PM (Unverified) said

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EPIC FAIL on GoonSwarm. They thought they had control of the situation by blobbing major outposts with 200 man cruiser gangs. But someone had the brilliant idea of turning on sovereignty in a backwater system before BoB sov was reset at EVE Downtime the same day the alliance was disbanded. They gained control of the same outposts Goon tried to take over. Most of Delve region is back in ex-BoB control, and the friendly fleets are keeping it that way. Sorry folks, nothing to see here, business as usual =).

Regardless of what you see them smacking about in local chat, they do NOT have the upper hand.

Yes they stole lots of money. Yes they got lots of nice big ships. But they forgot one very important detail: all the disbanded corps still have their pilots, ships, isk, modules, and resources.

** And they did not run. **

reread that line above a few times to get the idea.

** Disbanding an alliance != destroying it. **

Sorry for the BoB haters, but you get no love today =)

Posted: Feb 7th 2009 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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One well placed time bomb, just took out an enemy captial ship fleet... Any way you try to look at it, BoB has suffered a loss unlike anything seen in quite some time. There aren't many wars where you have a weapon capible of not destroying an enemy capital ship fleet, but comandeering it, as well as ISK to help with strategic fortifications.

It's far from game over or a catastrophic loss -- but it isn't beyond compare to the damage that might be done to both sides of a 100 man skirmish.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 9:12PM (Unverified) said

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So, lemme get this straight.

You're trying to come here and pose (because that's exactly what you're doing) by saying "everything's the same! We're not busted down at all!". Hmm. You were once the Iraqi Minister of Information, weren't you?

Fact is, whether BoB reforms under a new name (they will) or not, this was a terribly painful blow. Granted, if BoB's leadership is worth a penny, they'll reform into a leaner, meaner, more cohesive alliance and they won't let complacency and bloat do to them what it appears to have done this time. Honestly, when you have devs handing you BPs and stuff, it's easy to feel untouchable.

So, reform, regroup, and go back to handling your business. But playing the ostrich role only gets you sand in your ears.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 4:31AM (Unverified) said

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Learning curve? For elitists? Feh! I feh at thee!

It takes less than a day to learn the skills to pirate non-combat ships. You don't need to even join a corp, there's always unprotected miners and industrials waiting to get killed by a small PvP ship... and boy howdy is killing them fun.

Posted: Feb 12th 2009 6:03AM (Unverified) said

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Although the trick was pretty neat inside job, they made one crucial mistake in the first place, allowing third person to use their account to gain access out of game systems which would fall under juristiction of law enforcement.

Well, as awesome as the trick was I truely hope that the forum owners come up with law suit for illegal access that can yield some time in prison. THAT would be even more awesome. Could give some new commercial for EVE Priceless.





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