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Posted: Jan 1st 2009 9:07PM (Unverified) said

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can i patent 'cleaning my ass with a right hand' such that everyone else must use their left?

Posted: Jan 2nd 2009 3:24AM (Unverified) said

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One of the drawbacks of the patent process is that you dont have to show a working model of your claim. You just have to provide a description of it.

The US Patent Office has approved more than one patent that describe how to fit 16 binary pigeons into 15 binary spaces all at the same time and get them all back out again as 16 whole pigeons.

Anytime anyone model this then the best you can ever get back is 14 binary pigeons and 1 pigeon pie.

If the patent process was to be ovehauled then I think having to be able to show a working model would be a good place to start.

Is not enough really to be able to claim a patent on an idea. Which is all a description is in the absence of anything is.

Also,

I think of a screaming man as a oil painting and I write it down. I even described the process to create it. And then someone makes exactly what I describe and even it call it The Scream which is what I also wrote down in my description.

If I try present this in any other Court the judge not even going to bother with me. But if I change just one word from 'oil' to 'digital' then the judge have to listen to me.

Is an absurd claim really and is why I think more and more 'digital' patent claims being rejected by the courts.

Posted: Jan 4th 2009 9:34AM (Unverified) said

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I've never heard of worlds.com before. I didn't know what they made or how they impacted the industry. I checked their website, and on the front page is a video from over a decade ago talking about how great they are.

Where have they been all these years?

Posted: Jan 2nd 2009 5:21PM (Unverified) said

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How does someone get the gall to claim ownership over the basic fundamentals of online game development? I need to hurry and patent human reproduction, so I can then sue anyone who has ever had children. It's retarded enough that the American judicial system will likely allow it to happen..... I weep for the future of online gaming.

Posted: Jan 2nd 2009 6:19PM (Unverified) said

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So what course of action do other MMO develpers have? What recourse do they have to either support NCSoft's position individually or as a whole?
And does anyone else get the impression that worlds.com is holding back on the other patent because a) it would be more costly to NCSoft to defend against two separate lawsuits rather than a single one or that b) somehow a successful defence of the first may create an opportunity to persue the second with greater success?

On a side note, what action could be taken against worlds.com if their lawsuit(s) fail?

Posted: Jan 2nd 2009 7:55PM (Unverified) said

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I know nothing about patents but didn't the military fund initial research into exactly this kind of thing with all their simulators in the late 80's?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIMNET shows that there was development of 3D environments (virtual worlds) over WAN including communications.

Posted: Jan 3rd 2009 9:38AM (Unverified) said

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The single most ridiculous thing I've ever read!

I may not have any knowledge of patenting or advanced knowledge of coding, but I do know how to read and that is the stupidest patent, ever!

I really hope that NCsoft don't only win the lawsuit, but that Everquest, or even better the Government, counter sue worlds.com for stealing the original idea and attempting to patent it, wasting time and money for all involved.

I hope that whole site burns for their unbelievable disrespect of the whole gaming community. The ramifactions of this kind of lawsuit are certainly dire, meaning that anyone who wishes to make a MMO has to ask for worlds.com approval is devastating.

Why not just claim patent to FPS or even better to RTS I mean why not claim patent to COMPUTER GAMES!

The gaming community is about sharing each others ideas, the most popular games are the ones that include the best parts of all different types of games, its not about patents, if every one had to pay loyalties we would all be stuck playing the suckiest games with little development!

In true MMO style, all I can say is:

/spit

Posted: Jan 3rd 2009 10:23AM (Unverified) said

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There are far, far dafter patents than this one, especially over the last 20 years. Many patents have been granted to third-parties after the fact.
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Posted: Jan 3rd 2009 12:53PM CheesecakeBandit said

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The US government can't sue anyone over that. They can fine them for filing false paper work though I bet. If the government did develop the software first and then release it in some way, shape, or form to the general public, it lies in the public domain and as such cannot be patented.
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Posted: Jan 3rd 2009 9:46AM computermilk said

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Hate to burst yalls bubbles...

The patent filing date, was in 2000


http://www.google.com/patents?id=wv5-AAAAEBAJ&dq=7,181,690

Posted: Jan 4th 2009 2:22PM (Unverified) said

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Worlds.com's site links to a number of articles about the suit on various industry websites; I find it somewhat telling that the commentary there about the suit and its merits is generally negative, and that one article (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081230/0128173245.shtml) specifically calls it out as BS. That article only cites the 2000 patent application, but setting aside technical quibbles there seems to be a consensus about prior art preceding even the 1996 application. Good job pushing the merits of your case, Worlds!

Posted: Jan 5th 2009 6:10AM (Unverified) said

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Hey, NCSoft beat Marvel...they can drop a nobody like worlds blindfolded.

Posted: Jan 6th 2009 1:35AM (Unverified) said

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They have a crap site.

They have a crap program.

The way their website is made proves that they have been waiting for quite a while to drop this bomb on everyone. They just want the money.

OMG! I downloaded the program and it... well suxs.

There is an interesting tell that they may have something that is nothing like the other MMOG's
quote:
"IMPORTANT:
After you have installed WorldsPlayer, you can download many other virtual worlds - simply locate the map in the lower right corner of the WorldsPlayer interface, click on a world you would like to visit, and if you don't already have it you'll be given the option to download it...for FREE!"

I don't know about you but i don't download anyhting but a client to help me see my virtual world(s) online. This says you are also downloading a virtual world in to your computer. hmmm...

This whole company smells like money grubbers to me.

Read their website it's really a joke.

Posted: Jan 6th 2009 9:09AM (Unverified) said

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Luckily there is a number of things going against worlds.com

The fact that they only now come out with a lawsuit - can be pointed to the fact that they didn't "care" enough about the patent to warrant the right to any grants.

Often the reason big companies will file a lawsuit against insignificant defendants - is due to this fact, to be able to prove that they are fighting for their ownership of something.

This alone puts worlds.com in a pretty bad spot.

Secondly - I hope there is just 1 gamer on the Jury that is going to sit in there, with a slight bit of brain. Seeing as the Patent is likely not filed globally - so IF... and only IF... they managed to win this lawsuit, and companies had to pay worlds.com money when they do MMOGs

It would only be valid in the country that the patent is filed, which means future MMOs would just avoid that country to avoid the patent-license, and instead just release in the rest of the world, which eventually turns bad for business in that country ;)

So worlds.com has a lot of things going against them - and then yes, companies like Activision/Blizzard and even Mythic/LucasArts would not want to see worlds.com win this, there will most likely be some backing.

Posted: Jan 7th 2009 2:28PM (Unverified) said

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Frankly, I think Blizzard and the rest should band together and just stomp this one out. Now, I know that companies like Blizzard have a limited amount to gain in watching NCsoft's immanent collapse (less competition, right?), but that simply sets precedent to let the bastards go after them in turn, with much less guns to bear.

A conglomerated legal defense, the MMO's banding together to protect their industry as a collective, would beat the living s*it outta Worlds, and stop this thing in its tracks. The enemy of my enemy is my ally. It seems to me that it would behoove all of the 3D interactive giants to get together on this one, and simply crush Worlds where they stand.

Posted: Jan 8th 2009 8:52PM Ravenschild said

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Worls is looking to make a buck thats it...what should happen is ALL the MMOG's should band together on this and get it overturned completely. NC might not hae a battery of lawyersmbut Blizzard does and so daoes Sony.And those are gonna be the next targets if World wins.

Posted: Jan 9th 2009 1:04AM (Unverified) said

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goto world.com and look at thier clients.....they will win they have MUCH MORE MONEY than it seems.

Posted: Jan 12th 2009 9:20AM (Unverified) said

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there is a precedent here.
http://www.bpmlegal.com/wselden.html

selden managed to patent the automobile, but did not do anything with it, which was his undoing.

Worlds.com is going to have that very same problem.

Posted: Jan 12th 2009 9:29AM (Unverified) said

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also, RTIME, on which the sony ps2 online thingie is based, was founded in 1992.These goobs are gonna have a hard time claiming that this was their idea first, as the u.s. military was using it as far back as 1987 on the precursor to the internet, DARPANET.

Posted: Jan 12th 2009 9:59AM (Unverified) said

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Read the thing again....DOOM would also apply here...but since it was before the patent(1993)(Wolfenstein as well.), that applies as prior art.Which then nullifies this thing.

Case Closed.

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