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Posted: Dec 27th 2008 6:33PM (Unverified) said

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LOL highly amusing. And probably true in part.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 9:32PM Boruk said

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The sad part of this..is that any true new MMO innovation dies because of this. Everyone rushes to a game that is overtly a child's game it is so easy to level up and does nothing to excite new developments in an old genre.

The stagnant pool just got a little more murkier.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 7:39PM TheJackman said

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Go Blizzard! No one did make anything like it!! Oh wait.... some people did.... Well no one got the marketing like your guys....OH $%%& thats not true also some mmo even have better marketing..... Ok well I give up...

Posted: Dec 24th 2008 11:29AM (Unverified) said

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You know that's funny because I've never met anyone that played WoW that wasn't satisfied with it. And I'll definitly say WotLK is 100 times better than WAR is, out of the over 100 something people that were in the guild I jumped to WAR with...none of them stayed. Go go faulty analogies.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 7:38PM TheJackman said

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I do love WoW as well Warhammer can not even hold a hammer against it!
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:20PM (Unverified) said

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I've always been confused by this number. Is this current subscribers or anyone whose every played? Does this include trials?

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 9:03PM Wispur said

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Blizzard has said it is active, paying accounts only and does not include trials.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 10:51PM (Unverified) said

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Well, it is possible that it could include trials as well to beef up that number. Just think about it, they recently did a "10 free days of WotLK if you have a previous WoW+TBC account" thingy to increase sales. It is possible that they count those as "active accounts" because they technically are old accounts reactivated for the 10 days to try WotLK....would not put it past Blizzard to count it as such either.

BTW: Warhammer Online may not have the millions of subscribers, but it sure does have the quality content.

WoW=McDonalds...millions served, few satisfied

WAR=TGIFridays...get drunk, party with friends, and all around satisfaction.

EVE=Sushi restaurant...watch the food slowly cooked infront of you and turn into a awsome dish.

All other MMOs=Taco Bell, Burgerking, and whatever other junk out there.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 7:19PM (Unverified) said

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"Well, it is possible that it could include trials as well to beef up that number."

Mr.Pickles, you are an idiot.

If you'd just READ the damn press release, it spells out in excruciating detail what exactly is counted in the 11.5 million subscriptions. Here's a hint: it's not trials.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 10:38PM (Unverified) said

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No no, really guys tell us. Just how sour are those grapes?

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 10:42PM (Unverified) said

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Not even slightly true for several reasons:

1:) Trying to rip off WoW and compete directly with it is doomed to failure, this is obvious. What this means is that developer's realise the best way to compete is to appeal to those not playing WoW or unhappy with it. End result is games that arent like WoW.

2:) The market size is at least 20 times the size of what it was before wow came out. Even if the majority will likely only play wow the potential of getting larger subscriber numbers than what would have been possible before wow attracts larger investments and interest from outside developers and publishers.

3:) If your game cant exceed subscriber numbers that would have been reasonable when only 1 million mmoer's existed in a market that exceeds 20 million then your game is just terrible, sorry.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 10:45PM Softserve said

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Eh, I don't enjoy WoW, but once someone makes a compelling title that appeals to the masses and does what it does well WoW will start coming down. I may love different games, but apparently many people think WoW does those things better... I'm not about to insult their intelligence over it.

Honestly, leveling up in WoW is probably the biggest drag for me so I don't think easy leveling up is all there is to it. Even if it's just because all of their friends are on it, that's a compelling enough reason. It's a big part so many people buy Wiis or use Facebook, regardless of them being good or bad products/services. I don't think that's inherently bad.

On the flipside, if no MMORPG ever did this well than I'm sure many companies would say "why bother?" and we'd be in a similar situation. Why innovate in a market where there's clearly a relatively low cap on the userbase? WoW may be a fluke in a sales sense, but I think the fact that it exists creates a lot of interest in trying to match its success on some level.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:52PM Nadril said

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@ Mr Pickles:

Funny enough WoW is so much more polished and has so much more content than WAR currently does. The end game in WAR is a joke right now, and it's too laggy to even do anything at fortress sieges.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:59PM (Unverified) said

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[quote]BTW: Warhammer Online may not have the millions of subscribers, but it sure does have the quality content.

WoW=McDonalds...millions served, few satisfied

WAR=TGIFridays...get drunk, party with friends, and all around satisfaction.[/quote]

Quality content? You mean lethargic PVP in mindless zergfest scenarios? Or keep battles that crash the server as though Mythic never actually thought people would stick around long enough to want what was promised?

But sure, I can play along with analogies. WAR is like TGIFridays, except you find out the food is frozen, pre-packaged from a factory, poorly prepared, and completely misrepresented from what's shown on the menu. Then, 9 out of your 10 friends get food poisoning, get frustrated by the failed expectations of the meal, and with no way to speak directly to the chef, swear to never eat in the place again.

Sound about right?

The only thing I can't shoehorn into this little scenario is the rabid, frothing fans of the IP, that are so blinded by their love of the Warhammer universe that they turn a blind eye to every glaring and show-stopping flaw in the game and will lambast anyone with a differing opinion at every chance they get.

Posted: Dec 24th 2008 7:48PM TheJackman said

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LOL but so true!! But sure, WAR is junk the game they marketed did show great content for the most part for both PVP and PVE PQ where marketed like a dream come true. But what we did get was noting like what was on the menu I never was able to play pass my first month that btw was a hell to play like the servers where more down them up.

Anyway I understand there are fan boys that thing they got what they wanted and well uh good luck to your guys.

However you can say anything you want about blizzard but the content of WOTLK is great I love the storyline chain quest style, new rep system and even did enjoy playing deathknight and believe it or not but I did enjoy some pvp (what most of the time I hate).
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 5:22AM (Unverified) said

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They now have 11,499,999 players because I just canceled my account.

Posted: Dec 24th 2008 9:15AM (Unverified) said

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Oh well. I bought two friends full battle chests and 60 day subscription cards for Christmas since they are absolutely in love with the 10 day trial I sent them last week. ^__^ We'll make up for your one canceled.

Both have heard all the untrue negatives about WoW and never actually played. However, their switch from Lotro to War gave them a bad taste. When I offered them trials, they both jumped at the chance and only have rave reviews for it.

WoW's not for everyone, but I've always loved it. Wrath is just icing. It's beautiful, polished, the quests are so much fun!!!
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 9:38AM (Unverified) said

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Don't get me wrong, WoW was a great game. I was in a raiding guild and we cleared all the old world content as well as all but Sunwell in BC, but my job now prevents me from playing during our raid time - so rather than look for a guild, I just quit, since no guild can take the place of mine IMO.

WoW, while a bit dated in the GFX department, is extremely polished and well programmed. I wish you and your friends many more happy years in Azeroth.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 9:34AM (Unverified) said

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Well.... millions of sheep eat grass. I don't plan on tucking into a bowl of it any time soon.

Posted: Dec 24th 2008 11:19AM (Unverified) said

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I'd rather eat grass like than rest of the sheep, than eat feces just to be different.
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