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Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 1:47PM Holgranth said

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"Volume I, Book 14, Chapter 11, we learn that the forces of Angmar,led by the Witch-king, are planning to return to Mirobel in Eregion to rekindle the old forges and either create a new ring or repair an old one. "

That just showed me for certian that Lotro online lore is a pile of rubbish loosely based of Lord of the Rings. Sauron only cared about getting the one ring. I have read lord of the rings fully (Including the lore filled back sections forget the technical term) and the similarian three times and I can assure you not only were the forces of Angmar almost non existant by this point,

The Witch King would not I repeat NOT be trying to forge a new ring or repair an old one while the one ring was in the possesion of Frodo. Saurons fate was tied to the one ring he (The Witch King) was hunting it obsessively. Your asking us to believe that the Witch King just decided to remake an old ring or perhaps try his hand at making a new one?

Flame all you want but ANY person who has read and understood the REAL lore of Lord of the rings would know that this is totaly opposite of the "We are going to remain true to the world Tolkin made" bull

This is inventing some totaly contrary lore of their own to give players some epic feeling quests.

Edit [My origional post didn't post for some reason so I did some more research into lotro's version of the lore and confirmed that while the lore is cool its still 500000 miles away from the actual story]

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 3:42PM Boruk said

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Actually, Sauron had the Dwarf rings that were still complete, while he knew the others were gone. So he wasn't just worried about his own ring. His one ring had power over the others, which he coveted them all (besides the Elves 3) because he could control those who wore them.

He also knew the one ring was in the world but not where nor if anyone actually had it. There is nothing to say that this all happened before or after Gollum was tortured for the knowledge of the ring.
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Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 5:05PM wjowski said

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If it adds something to the game world, then lore be damned.
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Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 2:23PM (Unverified) said

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Holy crap, who cares.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 3:31PM Softserve said

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I think you could just as easily argue that there's room for a lot of these stretches simply because these things aren't discussed in the books.

I don't think it's beyond belief that any of the evil characters in these stories would work to increase their power. I mean, wouldn't that help in Sauron's quest to get to his ultimate goal anyway?

The Witch-king himself wasn't always doing all of these things to begin with. He could certainly concentrate one thing while sending his friends to do another.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 4:05PM Jesspiper said

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I agree with Tony above. Turbine isn't re-writing the lore, they are filling in the massive gaps that Tolkien couldn't finish before he died. All of the game's content is apporved by Tolkien Enterprises, therefore it can't be that far off the mark.


As for the article itself I found it to be enjoyable. I'd like to see articles on the races of Middle-Earth, since Tolkien's versions of Elves, Dwarves etc really created the Archetypes we know today that are found in D&D, Warhammer Warcraft etc etc.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 4:58PM (Unverified) said

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Actually you're right, Sauron doesn't give a crap about forging a new ring. Its not Sauron that is doing it.

A guy named Mordorith, the main protagonist of the game, is seeking to forge a ring. Its not comparable to any of the main rings, but it is still powerful none-the-less since it was made by an apprentice to Celebrimbor. Its a reforging of a ring that was broken in two thousands of years ago.

The forces in Angmar are also new, almost all of the enemies are the wild mountain men of the area, sort of the same as what Saruman is doing near fangorn and orcs being recruited from near by areas and brought INTO Angmar.

You can't expect them to just follow the ring completely, you're mainly part of a side story yet untold. I don't know what Holdar expects from a LOTRO MMO, from the sounds of it he doesn't even play so I do not see why it matters so much to him.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 5:04PM (Unverified) said

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Alot of what they've done is fill in gaps. The Palantir that went north with the last king of Fornost just kind of ended when it said he died in the bay of Forochel. They made an entire area based around it, its very cool. Just off that one little dead end sentence; a whole large area.

Mordorith has a true identity to him, and I'm sure some Tolkien guys freak out about who it really is, but come on, Tolkien wrote NOTHING on it aside from "hadn't been seen again."

Durin V i think is literally nothing beyond his name. They created Helegrod out of this lack of knowledge of the guy. A very intriguing and cool story line about a guy who we only knew his name.

Just saying, they aren't changing the lore, they are ADDING to what hasn't been told. And yes, they have to have it approved by Tolkien's Estate(not the movie and merchandising Tolkien company, but the family estate itself which is more than most Tolkien based games)
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