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Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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Well there you are James.

For the first time in months I checked massively and I didn't see a pedantic article about Eve for an ENTIRE page. (From the Champions only to the FF XI discount.)

WTG there buddy, keep monopolizing the site about just one game.

Posted: Dec 4th 2008 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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@ Isanox

As Omberjack says in the comments above, there's clearly a lot more Warhammer and other fantasy-MMO content on this site than there is EVE. And why shouldn't there be? Fantasy MMOs reign supreme in this industry. Our traffic indicates this is what the majority of you, the readers, like. Our content reflects this. But obviously you'll see more articles here on the mainstream fantasy titles like WAR and WoW than FFXI or Asheron's Call. It doesn't mean we don't like games that don't begin with a "W", but reader response (and traffic) gives us a fairly accurate picture of what people like to read at Massively.

However, despite how dominant fantasy is in the industry (and thus our coverage) in the months since I joined the Massively team, I chose to run with something different and have taken a look at EVE. It's a radical departure from the other games we cover, and yeah -- the game's just not for everyone. But the response to what I've written thus far, and of course the almighty traffic, warrants our coverage of the game. Specifically, *my* coverage of the game. (Our other writers focus on titles like LotRO, WAR, etc. That's their thing. EVE is mine.)

That's not going to change. We've got new content every hour throughout the day, if EVE (or just my writing about EVE) makes you want to gouge your eyes out -- well, I'm sorry to hear that, but we've got plenty of content here for other types of gamers. I don't monopolize game coverage at Massively (although admittedly the amount of content I write here has increased in the last few months).

If you're going to write about games for a living, shouldn't you write about the titles you're passionate about? My favorite happens to be EVE, thus many of my posts are about that game. Others on staff here don't play it or don't play it as much. Hell some of our writers don't like it at all, and that's fine. I'm sure they prefer to write about the titles they enjoy. That's how it works here. For the record though, although I focus on EVE, I do write about other games at Massively as well:

http://www.massively.com/bloggers/james-egan

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Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 6:39PM (Unverified) said

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Lol, Sandbox strikes again!

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 6:44PM Pacey said

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As many others on the Eve Online forums have already said. This form of attacking carebears in high sec isnt anything new, it just implements the Orca in a way that allows for it to be done somewhat easier.

It just goes to show, someones always smarter and will figure out 'unintended' uses for ships in Eve

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 6:44PM (Unverified) said

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I'm new to EVE, but I think this situations falls into my "exploit" book. Basically, what the ship is doing is "smuggling" wanted criminals, therefore, just like drugs or whatnot, it should be penalized in high sec.

Just an opinion of a big newbie.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 6:47PM (Unverified) said

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Don't forget that once your security status drops below -5 you're fair game for anyone to shoot regardless of the security rating of the system.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 6:50PM Pacey said

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/me hands Dr. Spiegel his flame suit

They arent smuggling the -10 prats in the Orca. As stated, pods are allowed in empire even with a sec status of -10. The Orca is being piloted by a neutral player and is launching ships into space. If someone wants to do that in Eve, thats fine and not an exploit.

I realize its your opinion and your welcome to it, but it always seems to go back to two phrases with Eve.

1) No where in Eve is completely safe. Empire space is only 'safer'.

2) Eve is a cold dark place. Get used to it.

It's things like that use of the Orca that makes the game so unique. Someone looked at is and said "Hey, lets try using it this way' and it worked. I like the idea of the game allowing unintended uses of things. And If you think this is 'bad'...

Just wait until T3 is released.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 7:36PM (Unverified) said

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I think CCP should leave well alone apart from flagging the Orca/Carrier so that players can gank it themselves with impunity.
If nothing else it makes the suicide ganking issue a tad more pressing and may encourage the Carebears to go out and do their own policing. (I'm for hire in that regard if anyone is wondering.)

I foresaw this use of the Orca the moment details of its specification were released. High-sec miners will just have to think outside the box to combat it.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 9:46PM wjowski said

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It's EVE. If the involved parties weren't expecting this they're playing the wrong MMO.

Posted: Dec 2nd 2008 11:35PM (Unverified) said

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Once again, Gibson is right: "The street finds its own uses for things."

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 8:05AM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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I really wish I could get into eve to take part in things i read about but the godawful interface makes my head explode everytime I try it.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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Unless you have an enormous amount of spare time and dedication, EVE really isn't worth getting into. Playing casually and having fun don't really go together. Best you can do in an hour of time is run a mission or mine a little bit, never get to do anything fun.
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Posted: Dec 8th 2008 10:40PM halfcaptain said

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Just wanted to respond to Reader's comment above ("Unless you have an enormous amount of spare time and dedication, EVE really isn't worth getting into."). As far as I'm concerned, not true. In fact, the opposite is true. Unlike a game like WoW, or City of Heroes, as much as I enjoyed the latter, you're not forced to grind around killing NPCs for experience points. Instead, you buy a skill, then you train it in real time. This means you can - gasp - not play for long periods of time with no real penalty to character development. Obviously, making isk is hard when you're not at the computer, but your skill training doesn't stop with the NPC grind, like other MMOs. This is pretty much the best reason that Eve is a great game to play casually.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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This is nothing new and I have to say I saw this coming the moment it was said that the Orca could transport assembled ships in high sec. Anyone who didnt think the Orca was going to become a feared pvp asset was really not thinking right.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 12:37PM Syme said

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The problem here is that there is no way to deal with the Orca without jeopardizing one's own sec status. The AI is too dumb to allow you to retaliate as you should be able to. EVE is a cold, dark place, unless you are hiding inside a neutral ship in high sec; then it seems pretty cushy.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 12:44PM Graill440 said

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I love how mentally challenged folks still label one side as "carebears" verse their what? Ignorant. If you dont play like me...insert label here, pathetic kids.

That aside, i have a question on the writers piece, where is the consequence for the ganker? I'm sorry you say, there is none.

Lets be real for a sec, the only content you can report about eve that would be relevant are subscription numbers and the multiple accounts held by single folks boxing in the game for whatever reason, with all the flaws in this game the constant spin to try and validate EVE as "the" space MMO is a joke. Hell, i think i will start reading spin about WOW now.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 5:24PM Pacey said

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Grail, i use the term carebear cuz I am one. Industrialist first, Combatant second. Carebear started as a term meant to be derogatory that has been embraced by some to mean something completely different. It's almost as bad as calling someone you don't know 'mentally challenged'. Oh, Wait...
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Posted: Dec 8th 2008 10:46PM halfcaptain said

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@Graill

"Hell, i think i will start reading spin about WOW now."

You might as well start reading something, because every time you expose your hate boner for Eve in a thread, you make it painfully apparent you don't really know much about the game you purportedly hate with so many good reasons.

Sorry if this gets marked as spam. I've just seen enough of this guy's low-class, ill-conceived rants in Eve threads before.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 12:48PM Graill440 said

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LOL, i commented about that a few months ago, i thought this site was the EVE fanboi review board. They must be getting some big gravy as a sponsor to spin EVE as much as they do.

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