I aint no WoW carebear player and Warhammer is getting old now with seeming the whole point of the game to fight at Tor Anroc. I have EVE and a few other choices, but these changes are not enough to move me. There needs to be consequences. Losing of items or exp is the only real consequence. otherwise, there is no point to PvP. So forget trying to cater to me AoC unless you are willing to go that far. And yes Warhammer is running now into the same wall you ran into. No consequences= bored population.