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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 8:18AM (Unverified) said

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I preordered the collectors edition from one of my former workplaces, Gamestop. I haven't decided if I'll be going to their midnight launch yet or not however. I'll probably go if I don't happen to get into the Darkfall beta today, so in other words I'll go since I probably won't get into the Darkfall beta 8( lol.

Posted: Nov 10th 2008 9:11AM MrGutts said

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Oh suuuuuure post all the WoW launch junk but noooo Lotro!


:)

Posted: Nov 10th 2008 9:27AM (Unverified) said

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It's funny, that the thing that you guys on this site for World of Warcraft is sooo perky and good and cheery; however, the thing that you guys did for Warhammer Online was instead spiteful and questioning whether it would even be a good game or not:

http://www.massively.com/2008/09/15/the-daily-grind-warhammer-or-woehammer/

Maybe instead this should have been an article saying something like: "How will Mines of Moria, releasing next week, effect it?"...or..."Is this of polished quality, or are they going to be adding in key things weeks/months later like TBC?" (Black Temple and Arenas were not in the launch of TBC, they came afterwards)...or..."Will WotLK have enough PvP content to stack up to Warhammer Online's Heavy Metal in-game event mixed with the anticipated Patch 1.1 in December?"

See, I can do that backward's thinking as well. I'm seriously kind of sick of this "doom and gloom" feel for every other MMO, yet for WoW it's all "sunshine and gnome's gold."

The game's 'ok', but it has rehashed so many of it's monsters, content, ect from one part into the other that once you've done 1-60 you've practically done all the game already. Naxx is being reimplemented again, so those that already did it once (and it's doubtful it was just one time, either) gets the joy of doing it again.

Posted: Nov 10th 2008 10:25AM Abriael said

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isn't this obvious? that's because WoW will rule "indefinately"!

It's seriously sad how a part of the gaming press is striving to help blizzard in their marketing campaign to mantain the status quo... I guess they don't understand how much the MMO market would benefit by competitors making a sizeable dent in the wow monopoly.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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You ask for analysis comparing WoW to other MMOs out there, but simply put, those articles are too simple. There's no complexity to an article about how LotRO MoM expansion will affect WotLK release. WoW isn't going to feel any pain from that release...but neither is LotRO. They each have their market of players at the level cap whom are eagerly awaiting the expansion.

You can either ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room - which many commentors here are advocating - or you can write about it. Massively has found a decent balance. If you want to visit sites that completely ignore Warcraft, go visit MMORPG.com or something.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 12:24PM Abriael said

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One would wonder why many commenters are advocating it. Maybe because there IS a divide between the celebrative tones used for wow and those used for other games? Or maybe because people are starting to be tired of hearing the blizzard marketing campaign directly echoed without any doubts or questions?

It's funny not to read any questions about if wotlk will deliver, if it'll be the same usual re-heated soup (which it is), if the PvP will be meaningless like it's always been in wow (which it is). The only question if what kind of shipping people are using...

There's already wow insider to make the wow fanboys happy. I see no reason to turn massively in a blizzard ad. But of course, this is just my two cents.

MMORPG.com is much more balanced. It talks about ALL mmorpgs, and wow is just treated (as it should be) as one of them. It even has obvious ads and banners for wotlk, but guess what, at least those are obvious ads, not ads disguised as articles.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 10:51AM (Unverified) said

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to get back on topic...

yes i will be going to a release event, but only because one of the official ones with Blizzard staff and all is happening about 3/4 of a mile from my house. Can't pass that up

Posted: Nov 10th 2008 11:21AM (Unverified) said

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Yes. I'll be "attending" a midnight release party at a local Gamestop. By that I mean, buying the game and getting out of there so I can go home and install/play it.

Why does every WoW-related post here lately have to have conspiracy theory comments about how biased "the media" is towards WoW. Massively has done a great job of balance. Look at it this way - it's a huge MMO news story that the biggest blockbuster game is a few days from an expansion. I'm sure Massively gets a huge influx of readers during these times when they do WoW related stories.

They're not journalists, they're simply bloggers. Get off their case about WoW...it's a large reason why Massively is even here in the first place. I doubt the MMO industry would be nearly what it is today without WoW.

Posted: Nov 10th 2008 2:20PM wjowski said

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Because WoW's the big kid on the block. It was the same way when EQ was on top of the heap. It's gameplay was seen as 'simplistic' and 'stupid', everyone complained about it being a 'boring grind', and any website that showed it any publicity at all was immediately branded as being in the tank for Verant/SOE.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 6:40PM Abriael said

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And it probably would be better. Without so many whiny kids that see social interaction in MMOs as a chore, or that cry endlessly if they don't receive instant gratification at every step they make.

In the internet-fed world of nowadays there isn't much difference between being journalists and being bloggers (besides the fact that a blogger most of the times isn't paid). You still influence people's tastes and purchases, depending on the number of your readers and how much of your opinions you pour in your articles, so in the end a blogger is a marketing tool as much as a journalist is.

Maybe they balanced the number of articles, but the tone definatyely isn't balanced. Everything about wotlk is music and roses, while I saw them actually make an effort to try hard and find flaws in other games to point out. This without to mention the laughable TWO articles on the percentage of people going back to wow. Not one, but two.

And honestly, I'm not sure what's huge about what kind of shipping people chose to receive WOTLK.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 8:31PM wjowski said

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Your view is distorted and incorrect.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2008 9:00AM (Unverified) said

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"Without so many whiny kids that see social interaction in MMOs as a chore, or that cry endlessly if they don't receive instant gratification at every step they make."

I hate to say it, but it's been like this since Everquest. It's almost a time-honored tradition to whine when you don't get your way in an MMO.

The tone is what it is. Go read the WoW forums and you'll complaints about class balance...like every other game. But other than that, WoW is in a pretty rosy spot: new, highly anticipated xpac coming in a couple days; more players than ever; a great big wad of cash coming its way.

Now, go read the WAR forums. Complaints about empty RvR, bored with scenarios, people with dying guilds (sounds like AoC forums a month after launch). I don't think that everything is rosy at WAR, but the outlook is certainly much better than AoC.

So, you have a few choices as a blogger. Either: write stories that reflect the mood of the game and its players; write everything with rose-colored glasses; or write every story with a doom-and-gloom apocalyptic bent. What you get here is a reflection of the mood of the games players.

Eve articles are technical and full of depth. WoW's are fluffly and slightly shallow, WAR's are focused on PvP, LotRO's are feature-rich to let more people know the basics of that wonderful game.

I've gone on too long, so I'll leave it at that.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2008 11:22AM (Unverified) said

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Here is more information on the NYC event if you are interested! I’m working with Best Buy on the huge World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King midnight release event on November 12th in New York City. If you haven’t heard yet, go to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/misc/wowx2-midnight.xml.

I wanted to give you a sneak peek at some of the latest details. Blizzard CEO/President and Cofounder Mike Morhaime and Executive Vice President, Product Development Frank Pearce will be at this NYC event. There will be a chance to meet several World of Warcraft game developers and have your game autographed. The entire event is hosted by Geoff Keighley and will feature interviews, prize giveaways (including Plantronics headsets) and World of Warcraft trivia – along with a few Blood Elves roaming the line searching for Alliance and Horde members! Trust me, you will want to be at Best Buy at midnight when the first game arrives for sale.

We hope to see you all out there and don’t forget to pre-order your game on BestBuy.com and check out www.bestbuy.com/midnightopenings for more details!

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