We will have to see how Grudge works, Mark has already cut back on the 'nerf' a bit. Its great they will be running it on the test server, we can all test it and give feedback before it goes like. I'd also point out within 24 hours of the patch notes coming out Mythic changed them after reading feedback from the community. That's a great way to work, as long as they are sensible suggestion and not just whining. I know I was worried about the Grudge changes, I still am, but as long as they listen to the players and don't just come back with "We have a plan" or "Working as intended" I think we can all mostly be happy Mythic is trying very hard to create a game the players feel they have shaped.