The reason for applications being closed I have heard myself is so they can once again revamp the app process. VTeam should have definatly sent a notice over the email system as that is how a lot of ppl stay up to date.. why have the system if you wont use it? We need to bring back responses on Channel, this reply in IM is rediculous and we dont learn a thing. Sure I agree we need to limit long convo's but ppl need to be smart.. if they are gonna give a long convo move it to IM! I like the new training aspect... make sure ppl are competent and not power hungry and it gives em a start on how to handle situations.. so Goods and Bads but I think we MIGHT be making progress.. I don't like this greeter only HI tho... It's like saying you guys are too old and we dont trust you anymore so we are gonna make a whole new group.... isn't HI what mentors are for?.. how about this.. dont close HI to greeters only, but recomend that heavy helpers there get the extra training or whatnot

Garn